joe blo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 hi mates have a problem with my rb20 hilux that started this afternoon. I started it up and reversed out my driveway. car died when I put the clutch in to go from reverse to neutral (does this a lot when cold. usually restarts straight away. CAR HAS HALTECH E11v2 so prob cold start tune). today it didn't restart. cranked for ages trying to get it going but wouldn't go and battery got too flat. I changed the spark plugs now so I know there good. mainly what I want to know is how do I make a thing ive heard of before where you connect a spark plug lead to the coil pack then put spark plug into that like a common spark plug setup so I can look for spark to rule out spark issue. im not sure how to connect it onto the coil thanks for now mates Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 You don't need to. Spark plug out of head, into coil. Rest earth of sparkplug against metal part of engine. Crank and look for spark in the plug. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yea so I have no spark I believe. It started straight up like normal then stalled from not being warmed up now won't restart. Does that sound like how an igniter box would fail? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 I mean ehen the problem first came up. Hasn't restarted today Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Maybe. Or the cas or wiring has died. Is there fuel? Ie smell or can hear injectors clicking? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'm not sure bout fuel. The set of spark plugs I took out that I had cranked for bout 5-10 minutes were dry but I didn't pull them for about a hour after I stopped trying to start the car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I would say you have no fuel then either. Do the usual, check fuses. Then i would pull cas out and turn by hand to see if the injectors click and I'd there is spark. Then you have to set the timing due to removing the cas. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) What fuses should I look for? Since its an engine converted car the stuff is in different places and probably unmarked. I get fuel pressure at the guage near the fuel rail so fuel pumps are going I believe. Dunno bout injectors. Setting he timing is going to be shit I rekn. Apparently aftermarket ecus don't set the timing off the Induction loop thing? And I don't know what they have set it too. Or will it just be tdc in regards to setting cas timing? Edited September 20, 2014 by joe blo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Like you said due to conversion what fuses do you check? If you don't k ow no way will I know. The fact the pump is priming might mean the ecu Is turning on. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I suspect the fuel pumps start straight up off the key. Will have to do some investigating on fixing it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Fuel pumps wired to start with ignition is bad. Very bad in a crash. Should be controlled via the ecu. Edited September 20, 2014 by Ben C34 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yea probs bad. I suspect that because they just run constantly once turn the key. Doesn't turn off when priming. Hopefully my ecu isn't dead. I don't believe the e11v2 has any lights on it so can't get quick idea if its getting power Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I've done some more looking and thinking. I hooked up spark plug to coil and prob have no spark. Then removed spark plug and no fuel on it I connected another cas I had (unconfirmed weather good or not tho) and turned it by hand with key in the on position. Nothing happened. No spark no injector noise. My next thinking is I want to check power getting to the ecu and then follow from there. Problem is the haltech e11v2 doesn't have any lights in it to see if its powered up. Is there a way to check power to it? It's a patch connector thing so the standard ecu plug is still there intact. I am now thinking of obtaining a standard rb20 ecu just to see if it lights up as my test for power getting to the ecu. Any other ideas mates? Just bought house. Ment to be selling car. dream boats f**ked Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe blo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 did some more testing. didn't need standard ecu. I checked it with multimeter. has power. what would be the next thing after the ecu I could check to make sure power is going out of the haltech ecu? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/448800-testing-rb20-coil-car-suddenly-wouldnt-restart-adding-lead-to-coil-to-connect-spark-plug/#findComment-7393543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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