Nismo 3.2ish Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I know from my experience that torque down lower, built and tuned for response was better for my DD ride. It seems easier and less expensive to get good HP from a peaky car. I could have just added a new age turbo and cams to my car and would have some impressive HP as the motor was already built to take it. But too laggy for a DD. But what about on the track,drag and hill climb. Say a torquey 26/30, 450awkw =approx (600awhp) against a 26, 600awhp Peaky build. Does this mean they are the same. My car was 338awkw and peaky, change to a smaller turbo and cams only got 7awkw more but much better in every way , well for a DD. Not sure if I have given an appropriate example, I think whatever makes you smile is the winner Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Its all about the power band. Whatever is under the curve Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinkstaah Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 If you make the same power, the same power 'earlier' is better. However if you're out on the track, all that power at 4000 RPM is useless if you are making power between 5000 and 8000 and you're always in that rev range. Really, you want the power where you're actually going to be using it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Now you done it, Pete. *grabs some popcorn* 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 So its a fine balance, torque and sounding good? 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 If you make peak power at 4000rpm then that is where you drive it, my car make peak power around 7k so I don't rev it past 7500rpm cause there is no point There is 600hp and then there is 600HP lol 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 How often would you drive your car at peak HP ? I would think the best overall Torque for the best overall power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Pete, torque rules. You don't have to get us to tell you that. Wait till your engine is built and report back. Sound is the least concern of decent power. Coming into boost quickly is either done by smaller turbos or larger displacement. Larger displacement is the winning answer. Fatter power band. Off boost a larger engine will always be nicer than a smaller engine. Seems like you are getting edgy! 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 How often would you drive your car at peak HP ?I would think the best overall Torque for the best overall power. Only on the race track And joining the M4-M5-M7-M1, great western highway And every time I leave my drive way Boost + 3.0ltr = addiction 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_o Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Only on the race track And joining the M4-M5-M7-M1, great western highway And every time I leave my drive way Boost + 3.0ltr = erection FYP bro 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 *waiting for the... "buy a V8" "3.0 don't rev" "Sound like shit" "2.6 for response" "But the MINNNNNESSSSS car" #diff ratios 3 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Only on the race track And joining the M4-M5-M7-M1, great western highway And every time I leave my drive way Boost + 3.0ltr = addiction Come on Mick you will be leading people astray Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7416994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Pete, torque rules. You don't have to get us to tell you that. Wait till your engine is built and report back. Sound is the least concern of decent power. Coming into boost quickly is either done by smaller turbos or larger displacement. Larger displacement is the winning answer. Fatter power band. Off boost a larger engine will always be nicer than a smaller engine. Seems like you are getting edgy! Hi Ben At this stage I am not worried about my car and I am not getting edgy, impatient would be the word I wanted more torque from the first trip home in the car, did a few changes and still wanted more, you blokes gave me enough information about 26/28,29,30 builds and I do not have to worry about it I could not find anyone with my particular mods so I am not sure exactly what I will get out of my combination. I am sure I could have used a more balanced combination, but it will be more than enough for me as a DD to put a smile on my face and scare the crap out of me if pushed, but all good. But there seems to be other opinions from blokes that keep their cars a 26 and modify from there. It also seems that a well balanced 26 goes like a bullet. So maybe a few will let me see what a good 26 can do. I know there are threads all over this Forum, but just asked the question?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Seems there are no compassions ? Thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr jet Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 *waiting for the... "buy a V8" "3.0 don't rev" "Sound like shit" "2.6 for response" "But the MINNNNNESSSSS car" #diff ratios Was gonna say buy an XR6 Turbo if you want the torque from a standstill haha. Mine only had 400hp and it was bake city from 2000rpm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^^ I saw one bust a tail shaft stalling it up at the drags. Literally didn't move and it broke. Try and do that in a Skyline Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^^ I saw one bust a tail shaft stalling it up at the drags. Literally didn't move and it broke. Try and do that in a Skyline Good luck !!!, I've tried many many Many times lol 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^^ I saw one bust a tail shaft stalling it up at the drags. Literally didn't move and it broke. Try and do that in a Skyline I'm Sure Luke could figure out a way. That dude has a nack for breaking dielines. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr jet Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 ^^ I saw one bust a tail shaft stalling it up at the drags. Literally didn't move and it broke. Try and do that in a Skyline Was a common problem in the FG's for some reason, even with a bit of extra power. I never broke one but I killed a diff and box. The engine is still running today with over 400k on the clock, 325kw and 1000nm. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 For some reason in the FG they put a tail shaft in that was the size of a twig, but upgraded shafts are common now Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450186-torque-awkw-vs-peaky-awhp/#findComment-7417854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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