SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hello fellow car people! I'm going to collect my first RB26DETT engine on saturday to start my BMW E30M3 NIS///MO project. The last couple of weeks I have spent hours on hours reading about the engine and what I should take care of first. To get you up to date I use my car as a sunday car, but I want it to perform well on the track. I don't attend any competitions, I just fancy driving as fast laps as possible. The car it setup with very expencive suspension and brake parts etc. My aim is reliable 400-450hp without doing too much modificaton this winter. What I want to do how ever is to get the oil breating and lubrication sortet first thing first. That include stripping the engine I guess. I have spent some time in the oil control thread, and have got some of a clue on what is going on. The list that I have come up with on the top of my head I will give you a write up on. I want to install the engine and do all the wiring and hardware work before taking it out again and do the oil job. So, I have gotten my hands on a 110.000km R32 GTR engine that is late model with pull clutch. This is beeing matet with a R33 GTS-T 5 speed gearbox and converted to push type clutch. This is beeing done by the shop that I'm buying the engine from. Engine is complete swap except AFM's. So, the list will be: -N1 oil pump with billett gear -1mm restrictors (mainly street, but hard when it is on track) Two pcs pr engine? -2l oil catch tank with two plugs for each rocker cover and two for the sump with filters on top -Mines or equal rocker cover baffles -Tomei oilpan baffle kit -10mm drilling of the oil returns (is that in the block or head? Both?) -Nitto crank collar -Fluiddampr I see it is recommended to expand the sump. If I'm not wrong the sump will be pretty low in the E30, so if I'm going to expand the sump it will need to be to the right or the left. My plan is to use the GTR sump, but remove the excess frontwheel drive stuff that it has on it and plug the holes for the driveshafts. As far as hp gaining is, I'm building my own 3" exhaust, using stock turbos at first, intercooler will be about the same size as stock Skyline, probably need to make my own suction kit and turbo elbows. What do I need to do with the ECU? Do I need bigger injectors? Adjustable fuelpressure regulator? So, it anyone have som input to a noob on RB's it would be nice. Or am I totally baked here? Cheers from Norway! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgaz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 if you hve the motor out i'd be doing the turbo's before putting it in....they are known for spitting the ceramic exhaust wheels down the exhaust pipe. thats my 2 cents. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you run stock injectors, turbos and fuel pump and run 1 bar boost. You will be around 230-250kw. It is not recommended that you run stock turbos as they can be unreliable when it comes to higher boost applications. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I have checked out the N1, the R34's and the Kinugawa TD05H-16G and the TD06SL2-20G, don't know the difference on the latter two. The TOMEI Arms kit does not fit into the budget. MIght get the Tomei headers though. There is already a Bosch 044 in line fuel pump in the car by the way. Edited November 6, 2014 by SSM Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Forget the Tomei manifolds. Gain nothing from them and will crack soon enough. They make a great doorstop or paper weight! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 if you hve the motor out i'd be doing the turbo's before putting it in....they are known for spitting the ceramic exhaust wheels down the exhaust pipe. thats my 2 cents. I can vouch for this. If you are going to spend all that kesh on the car. Get new turbos. -7's, -5's, -9's i can pretty much guarantee you will spit a turbo wheel Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Guess the -5's is best for early spool? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236467-definitive-guide-to-building-300-330awkw-gt-r/page-1 Read this. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Double post Edited November 6, 2014 by Anfanee Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Guess the -5's is best for early spool? Nope -7's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Standard -7 -9 -5 -10 In order for least power to most. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 How much crank hp can the -7's do? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 i unno crank HP Mine currently make 320AWKW on 98 In getting E85 so who knows what ill make then. 340-350 around there i think. Maybe higher. Can't find much info on them for E85 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ok, you are way over my hp goal then. E85 is not an option for me though. So, 600cc SARD injectors and a set of 7's should do? Probably need to make my own elbows. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I made 313rwkw @ 19psi on my -7s, personally I would look at the TD05-16g 3.5" exhaust aswell If the motor has a pull clutch then chances are it also has the wider oil drive so no need for the Nitto one, but check it while it's apart The RB26 only has one oil feed for the head, the rear one is blocked usually, again you won't know for sure till head is off, either way fit the 2 x 1mm restrictors even if it means removing the bung from the back one An RB30 sump will bolt up to the RB26 block If you don't plan on running more then 15psi and aren't planning on covering the car in tyre smoke the stock turbos will last a while Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 yeah man i love my -7's. Drop straight in too i can't see an answer to your ECU question. Depends on what you want to spend. Apexi PFC will do what you want, you can pick them up for around $600 Or do it properly and buy a haltech for future proof. I'm going through the process of removing my PFC for a haltech currently. Haltech is around $2000 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Go iD/ BOSCH 725 or 1000's. Much Nicer than those old wreck sard 600's By elbows I'm assuming you mean dumps? A set of R34 GTR dumps will do. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 i would get it in a running before f**king with it stock motor is going to be awesome in a e30 once its running perfect and you have ironed out all the bugs then modify 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 +1 on ID1000 Injectors i love them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSM Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 i would get it in a running before f**king with it stock motor is going to be awesome in a e30 once its running perfect and you have ironed out all the bugs then modify Yes, that is my plan as well. The stock motor will be slower then the one I had. That was a 236kw/350nm NA engine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/450443-newbie-r32-gtr-engine-upgrades-etc/#findComment-7421454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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