Formula 1 2015

[Aggroman]

that's one, slightly skewed, interpretation of events.

The FIA made it clear they would not alter the track to suit one tyre manufacturer at the expense of another. Fair enough imo.

They also pointed out they did not have time to design and build a chicane they could ensure would be safe in the time available. Again, sounds fair and resonable. (they had since friday prac to figure it out, but waited till 2hrs before race to deliberate, 9-10 teams agreed to chicane but Fez, head of FIA didnt want it, circuit owner was happy to put up a chicane as they had a few setup during team deliberations and the circuit had portable chicane devices on site that have been used previously)

The Michelin teams had the choices of:

- taking T13 at a speed their equipment could handle, (deemed to unsafe and it is honestly)

- running through the pitlane each lap to ensure their drivers could not exceed the limitations of the Michelin tyres, (didnt hear this one in teh 2hrs pre show from ITV)

- flying in a different spec tyre and having some sort of penalty. (blocked by the FIA as tyre changing is against regulations)

Bear in mind there was only 6 Bridgestone shod cars, so even if all of them finished in the top 6 positions, there were still points positions left on the table for the Michelin cars. (teams offered to run without getting points as penalty, fez said no)

The Michelin teams refused all of those options and instead issued an ultimatum to the FIA to install a chicane so they wouldn't lose out to Bridgestone, otherwise they would not run. (un true from the michelin rep interviewed at the time)

Michelin's fault for bringing an unsuitable tyre and for the way they chose to handle the issue. I guess the last word is that Michelin elected to refund all ticket holders and hand out 20,000 tickets to next years GP to avoid litigation from the US fans. (circuit promoter was the only one that could potentially be sued, michelin accepted responsibilty and refunded all the tickets a a sign of good faith as they said at the French GP)

my previous post was a summarized version as I CBF typing the long winded side from my phone. the above in bold is what happened in the 2hrs before the race started. People interviewed were DC, Button, Alonso, Fisichella, Webber, Barrichello. team bosses interviewed: Flavio Briotore - renault, Horner - red bull, Stoddart - Minardi and finally Frank Williams, Jean Todt - Fez they even interviewed Bernie but he didnt know shit or wasnt talking

the only reason 6 cars ran is because Jordan tried to sneak in a race start to get points over Minardi, so Minardi were forced to go ahead with the race much to the disgust of Stoddart.

I dont know where you get your info but you couldnt be more wrong unless you tried

[hrd-hr30]

lol

The FIA made it clear they would not alter the track to suit one tyre manufacturer at the expense of another. Fair enough imo.

They also pointed out they did not have time to design and build a chicane they could ensure would be safe in the time available. Again, sounds fair and resonable. (they had since friday prac to figure it out, but waited till 2hrs before race to deliberate...

really?

Joint statement from Michelin teams

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2005/6/3201.html

After final data from Michelin became available at 06.30 on Sunday morning it became clear that Michelin were not able to guarantee the safety of the drivers.

couldn't be more wrong if you tried lol.

unless of course, you're blaming Michelin and not Ferrari or the FIA for leaving the issue to the last minute

You'll have to substantiate that the "circuit owner was happy to put up a chicane as they had a few setup during team deliberations". I certainly don't remember any talk of chicanes having been setup and then pulled down!

I can back up what I said about the FIA refusing the change the track to suit one tyre company at the disadvantage of another though:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4109292.stm "To change the course in order to help some of the teams with a performance problem caused by their failure to bring suitable equipment to the race would be a breach of the rules and grossly unfair to those teams which have come to Indianapolis with the correct tyres," the FIA said.

"Bear in mind there was only 6 Bridgestone shod cars, so even if all of them finished in the top 6 positions, there were still points positions left on the table for the Michelin cars. (teams offered to run without getting points as penalty, fez said no)

Ferrari didn't block anything. Ferrari were not even at the meetings as far as I'm aware. Again, you'll have to show some evidence of that claim that Ferrari said no to Michelin teams to run without geting points.

The Michelin teams refused all of those options and instead issued an ultimatum to the FIA to install a chicane so they wouldn't lose out to Bridgestone, otherwise they would not run. (un true from the michelin rep interviewed at the time)

lol it really is extremely well documented that Michelin instructed their teams not to compete unless there was a chicane installed. I'd love to see the quote from the Michelin rep interviewed at the time saying they would use one of the options other than a chicane! The phrase "couldn't be more wrong if you tried" springs to mind again for some reason...

[ianjb]

[ianjb]

[tweety bird]

http://i.imgur.com/HytgP1Y.jpg

[tweety bird]

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[ianjb]

last years, but this is really cool -

[tweety bird]

F1 tyre supplier Pirelli is expecting a significant step in performance from all the teams in 2015 as they make big strides following the first winter of development under the current regulations.

The new V6 turbo engines and revised aerodynamic regulations saw teams off the pace of previous years at the start of 2014, but on certain tracks towards the end of the year the cars were back up to speed. Pirelli has developed its 2015 tyres on the assumption the teams will make even bigger gains over the winter as they not only develop their chassis and aerodynamics but also benefit from power unit upgrades.

"Even if we took the same [compound] choices everywhere [as in 2014], what was conservative [in 2014] might start becoming aggressive because the pace evolution for next year is going to be pretty dramatic," Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery said. "We saw big improvements towards the end of the season and that's without them being able to get anywhere near the powertrain in the way they'd like to. We can expect quite a big jump again in performance, and if we are talking a second to two seconds a lap speed improvement then that dramatically changes the way the tyres are used, so we have to be wary of that and follow that."

Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/188235.html#bIOhtfJzgF8Zg9Mj.99

[djr81]

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Test livery? Cant remember what the colours should be other than light blue and yellow which were sort of Renault colours anyway or just those for Asturias?

If all the sponsors are on board because of Alonso does that make him a pay driver?

[tweety bird]

Yeah it's just a concept.

[Roy]

God I hope Alonso goes to McLaren and rips Nico-Lewis, Vettel and all comers a new one.

It is bad for F1 when comfortably one of the best two drivers in F1 is wallowing in a car that cant get on the front row and struggles for a podium. The way the guy has slogged away has won me over and am actually rooting for Mclaren to have a good year.

As always, hope:

- Homo implodes because his Mrs gets d1cked by some uber rich old timer / "Flav like" playboy

- Kimi turns things around

- Lotus kick ass and we have the 3rd coming of Romain

- Dan has a strong year

- Williams continue the trend

- Sauber dont continue to disappoint

Actually, really this year I am open minded and think I am going to enjoy the season. The only thing I really dont want to happen is Homo have a good year and Vettel find his feet. I want him to be absolutely destroyed by Kimi...so really need the tyres to come to Kimi

[djr81]

Why Flav like and not Flav? Would be worth it for the lols.

Be nice if the power that be could find a way of making the lower ranked teams viable. And more of them. Was looking at the 2005 stuff of the back of the earlier posts. Ridiculous how many good teams there were.

[dezz]

I'm hoping my boy kimi turns it around big time this year

[djr81]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/kimis-struggle/http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/kimis-struggle/

[Anfanee]

God there is a heap of hate for hamilton in this thread hahahaha

[Anfanee]

Oh also Happy Birthday to the man

[tweety bird]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117300

I want this to happen so badly..

[89CAL]

I hope they go through with it

It always confuses me a little bit, why they want to make the cars so fuel efficient. Engine manufacturers already know how to do that, they are not going to learn anything from F1 engines. The KERS systems make sense to me, but let them go nuts with the engine, it is motor racing after all

It would be great if they increased the maximum fuel flow, let them rev up to near 20,000rpm again and a few other minor tweaks. Sounds like a winner to me anyway

[Missileman]

God there is a heap of hate for hamilton in this thread hahahaha

I wouldn't say I hate him just not my favorite. He has the talent, no doubt about it.

[Kinks]

It always confuses me a little bit, why they want to make the cars so fuel efficient.

It's just a bullshit measure to showcase the sport's "green" credentials.

It ignores the fact that the most environmentally sensitive thing to do is not to hold a race at all. You can instantly knock off 100% of the fuel burn, plus all the fuel used by spectators turning up to watch it. But Bernie wouldn't get richer, so he won't do it. At least that guarantees we'll be able to watch *something* I guess.

Personally, I'd rather have a race. Bring back refuelling and let them go for it. I hate seeing drivers drive to a time. I want to see them flat stick battling it out.