Super Charging

[dalaughingbuddha]

Hey guys

Just curious if anyone has supercharged a v36. I've got a 2006 auto sedan and I'm toying with the idea of creating a sleeper.

Any advice on price, suppliers, installers, models would be appreciated.

I'm in western sydney btw.

Thanks in advance

[Whoa Black Boaty]

Would be awesome!

[Nightcrawler]

Budget $15k as a STARTING point. You won't believe how many little and big things you need to change if you want to do it properly (including E85 conversion, new fuel lines, swirl tank, dual fuel pumps, flex sensor, then things like trans strengthening, diff strengthening, etc etc). Of course if you are mechanically handy you can save yourself a heap of cash (install is 20 hours+ so I am told).

[Whoa Black Boaty]

Why not turbos?

[Guest]

Budget $15k as a STARTING point. You won't believe how many little and big things you need to change if you want to do it properly (including E85 conversion, new fuel lines, swirl tank, dual fuel pumps, flex sensor, then things like trans strengthening, diff strengthening, etc etc). Of course if you are mechanically handy you can save yourself a heap of cash (install is 20 hours+ so I am told).

Congrats on post 8000

[dalaughingbuddha]

Why not turbos?

Good question. I just imagined turbos and auto transmission didn't mix. Make a case for the turbos and I may be swayed?

[PN-Mad]

I really don't think the auto transmission cares how the boost pressure is produced.

What makes you think it does?

[dalaughingbuddha]

I really don't think the auto transmission cares how the boost pressure is produced.

What makes you think it does?

Just my ignorance mate :-). I'm still getting my head around how it all works. This is the first car I've owned thats worth putting any money and effort into. So yes turbos apparently are an option so what should I expect to outlay for a decent and reliable turbo system that can deliver a big power improvement keeping in mind its still my daily driver?

Thanks :-)

[PN-Mad]

Honestly, I don't want to sound like a "been there, done that" asshole, but I have done it before. I put a turbo kit on my stagea, which is the V35 equilivent. I then removed it, because it was a daily, and bought a proper track car.

To be honest I don't know what's available for the vq35HR, as I don't think it has the range of forced induction options the VQ35de has.

[dalaughingbuddha]

Sorry buddy I thought the engine on the pv36 was the same as the 350z not the same as the stagea?

[PN-Mad]

You are correct, your car has a VQ35HR. My car has a VQ35DE. 350z came with both, the later models being the HR model, earlier being DE.

For an idea, have a look at some of the V and/or Z forced induction builds on various forums, to give you an idea on what your in for if you want to go down that path.

A quick search showed that GTM have a SC kit for the HR v36 at least in LHD form.

My logic behind it all was even though I enjoyed what I had, it wasn't ever going to be a track car, which is where my interest headed. Hence why I sold off the turbo kit, and bought a more dedicated car.

[dalaughingbuddha]

You are correct, your car has a VQ35HR. My car has a VQ35DE. 350z came with both, the later models being the HR model, earlier being DE.

For an idea, have a look at some of the V and/or Z forced induction builds on various forums, to give you an idea on what your in for if you want to go down that path.

A quick search showed that GTM have a SC kit for the HR v36 at least in LHD form.

My logic behind it all was even though I enjoyed what I had, it wasn't ever going to be a track car, which is where my interest headed. Hence why I sold off the turbo kit, and bought a more dedicated car.

Thanks PN.

. I've got alot of research to do I think and realistically it will be a while before I get enough cash together to dive in and get it done properly but I appreciate your info.

[Nightcrawler]

"Congrats on post 8000 :)"

Haha, it's not about how many posts you have, it is how long you have been around for *cough SAU member number 669 joined 25 Jul 2002* (when many members on here had not yet had their first pimple yet)

[Guest]

Haha, it's not about how many posts you have, it is how long you have been around for *cough SAU member number 669 joined 25 Jul 2002* (when many members on here had not yet had their first pimple yet)

October 2005 here

[colin.ssc]

I would stay away from dealing with GTM altogether. They make quality products but there are issues that arose where people didnt receive their purchase even after a year.

Stillen SC kits are pretty good. Direct bolt on.

AAM Competition and Fast Intensions have pretty good turbo kits.

I'd say SC would be less f**king around. But do it

[scotty nm35]

Turbo is easier to hide though.

[dalaughingbuddha]

Does anyone know what sort of HP gains i could expect from the Stillen bolt on stage 2 SC?

[dalaughingbuddha]

Also i noticed a lot of this stuff is fro the US? Do Japan make anything worth having a look at?

[Nightcrawler]

The HUGE problem is that any variety of bolt-on kit is going to only be run at very low boost unless you open the motor and spend a SIGNIFICANT amount of money. The Stillen Stage 2 kits costs around $10k landed from the USA (once you factor in shipping, duites and gst) plus fitting, and only nets around a 35-40% power increase.

Results are VERY mixed all over the internet. This is one set of results of a Stage 3 kit:

Baseline:....242.5 hp @ 5800 rpm 239.4 ft/lbs @ 4600 rpm
Stillen:.......338.2 hp @ 6600 rpm 302.6 ft/lbs @ 4200 rpm

The real fun starts with the VQ35 when the motor is properly built/decompressed and you can run some decent boost. As we all know, 7psi is for pussies. Turbo kits seem to make quite a bit more power too.

I know of a 350Z here in Adelaide that ran 350rwkw with an APS twin turbo kit on an unopened motor - for a little while until he grenaded it.

But I also know of a V35 with a Stage 1 HKS superchager kit that was still only doing 14 second 1/4 mile times, so was not much quicker than a lightly modified stocker without f.i.

The answer is, if you want a luxury cruiser with a little bit of poke, mod your V35 to 180rwkw and enjoy it. If you want a car with real power, sell it and buy a GTR. Simple as that

[dalaughingbuddha]

Thanks Nightcrawler.

Believe me if i had the cash i would go the GTR in a heart beat but for now i'm sticking with this "family car"

I thought my V36 was running about 230kw from the factory already but maybe i'll just start buy getting it dyno'd to see what i'm starting with and then go from there. Anyone have any recommended places in sydneys west, blue mountains, or hawkesbury area?

Edited December 29, 2014 by dalaughingbuddha