89CAL Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What pricing are you looking at and what will be included in the kit/what will have to be sourced? Part of me is really keen, but then another part of me thinks I should save the time/money and live with stock as im not having any issues. Too hard to make decisions on this car sometimes lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7461947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 It's looking like about $300 for all the mounts and cam trigger wheel. I can source the sensors also for $70 each and you will just need to get the balancer modified at any machine shop. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7461983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I still think its the optical pickups in the cas that are the problems, because even with a 24/1 aem trigger disc i still saw issues, when we hacked up the cas with a hall effect pick up with 24/1 set up, had no problem. I thinks its a reasonable conclusion to draw, and to solve the problem any hall effect setup off the crank or even a cam only hall effect trigger will work. I have never seen a hall effect trigger system not work. How would you go about a cam only Hall effects trigger? That sounds like the cheaper/easier alternative if it is the optical sensor that is the problem and not the absence of a crank sensor Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7462308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 You could do a cam only hall effect trigger easily enough. You would need 2 sensors and two chopper discs. One disc would only have the single trigger, and the other might have 6 or 12 or 24 depending on what you think you can make worth with the sensor and the ECU. The sensors would probably end up being mounted axially (rather than radially like in Murray's current design so you could have one trigger wheel inside the other. Or you might have one radial and one axial perhaps. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7462325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I get sensors from www.digikey.com.au They are the cheapest supplier I have been able to find in case anyone is looking at hall effect sensors of the Honeywell 1gt101dc type and other brands too. They also have pressure transducers in various types and pressure ranges, once again in Honeywell brand. That may help people who are looking for automotive sensors Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7464444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wow not cheap at all.... $100 for a gt101 sensor + $34 shipping - http://www.digikey.com.au/product-search/en/sensors-transducers/magnetic-sensors-position-proximity-speed-modules/1967210?k=gt101 Or I get mine from RS components $57ex - http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/magnetic-pickups/2355706/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7464446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney_Head Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 would this sensor work with your setup? http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/hall-effect-crankshaft-position-sensor-p-479.html Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7464740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 It should do - The dimension appear pretty similar to the the genuine item. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7464803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) wow! that's changed since I last bought some. The last batch I got of them they were only about $35 each! Well ignore that then! RS prices have come down too. They use to be about $80 a sensor. Edited January 21, 2015 by r33_racer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Well guys ive had alot of trouble in the past two weeks getting in contact with the factory in china and as far as I know tthe first batch still has not shipped. I'll keep you all updated Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Would you be interested in making a bracket and trigger wheels for cam only setup? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Double post Edited January 21, 2015 by BlackBox Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Super Keen you are BlackBox! Certainly... anything is possible, I would need to see if there is a dual pickup hal effect sensor or similar more compact items as having two units next to each other will get bulky. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGTRX Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 This ^^^^^ and run the trigger through it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostaholic Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Vn v6 crank angle sensor should work 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Interesting Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7465995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billionaire_Project Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Good work on this, interested in how it all goes, I get a very choppy signal but believe it more to be with my ecu reading speed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7467133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxy74 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 any news on these yet? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7472865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayis Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Lets just say I've wanted to fly to china to have some stern words with a few people. I've been talking to the factory up until 2½ weeks ago where they stopped all communications, I ended up contacting the company register in HongKong to obtain the business owners details to contact them and finally heard back last night from one of their sales girls who informed me they are being re-made as there was a problem with the finish and they have been trying to hide it from her by not answering me on Skype, Email, Phone or WeChat... The business owner has promised me that they will ship this week..... this is all I know and I've well out of pocket at this stage so my fingers and toes have been crossed for weeks they actually show up! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7472935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRNUR Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 If that fails, contact Julian at Aftermarket Industries / CNC Industries. Apart from making good fuel systems he also has very decent CNC machining capability in China. He made the first 3 alloy spacer plates for my V3 engines and the quality is great. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/452152-open-source-rb-trigger-kit/page/9/#findComment-7472950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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