Jump to content
SAU Community

Help With Clutch Choices

yoshiii335
 Share

Recommended Posts

yoshiii335 Rising Star

yoshiii335

Posted
Posted (edited)

Hello

I am choosing between clutches for my car.

I am looking at the Nismo Sports Clutch Copper Mix. I have access to a new clutch plate, just need to buy the clutch pressure plate and flywheel.

A ORC 409D I have access to the pressure plate and I think the fly wheel, but I have to buy the clutch plate

A Exedy clutch (not sure which one) new. Have to buy completely

My car is a R32 GTST, the mods I have now are intake, full 3 in turbo back exhaust with sports cat, EVC 5 with boost set at 13.9psi, return flow front mount intercooler.

I plan on buying the parts I need and having the car tuned to about 350-400 hp.

Which one of these clutches would be good?

What a about Spec and some of the other brands?

I will use it for the street, highway and once a month at the track.

Edited by yoshiii335
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455301-help-with-clutch-choices/
Share on other sites
breaker1845 Community Regular

breaker1845

Posted
Posted

There is so much information available all you have to do is search for it instead of creating new threads every time you have a question.

Have some initiative in self learning then once you can't find a solution to your question ask or see a qualified mechanic who is probably going to install it for you some advice.

You have multiple options on which brand of clutch to buy depending on your power level.

Huge range of websites online and probably shops you can order from also.

  • Like 1
yoshiii335 Rising Star

yoshiii335

Posted
  • Author
Posted
  On 01/04/2015 at 10:42 AM, 75coupe said:

No no yoshiii is kinda special, has lots of strange ideas, of which few will probably be realised, so needs spoon feeding he may otherwise need to search for forums on how to live

You know you guys can ....

I've researched about them. I am trying to get people's opinions.

If you don't want to help, the stay the... off of my post.

Just so you know, I do my research and I have a aftermarket clutch(new )set that was given to me, but it's for the track.

yoshiii335 Rising Star

yoshiii335

Posted
  • Author
Posted
  On 01/04/2015 at 8:22 AM, Hadouken said:

Wow. What is up with all these new clutch threads?!

Google. There is one thread that is at least 30 pages long telling you everything you need to know

Look up npc clutches

Tried the website, but when I click on the links on their site, it goes to a medical website. Maybe they havent been keeping up their website.

yoshiii335 Rising Star

yoshiii335

Posted
  • Author
Posted
  On 01/04/2015 at 9:26 AM, breaker1845 said:

There is so much information available all you have to do is search for it instead of creating new threads every time you have a question.

Have some initiative in self learning then once you can't find a solution to your question ask or see a qualified mechanic who is probably going to install it for you some advice.

You have multiple options on which brand of clutch to buy depending on your power level.

Huge range of websites online and probably shops you can order from also.

Yes I have researched. I have found a couple different ones I want to use, I am asking for opinions because maybe someone has used a particular brand and model that I listed and can give me feed back from their experience.

Thanks for your reply.

Everyone here is so quick to say search search, well I did search, I came here with specific models. This is a forum where people are supposed to be able to ask opioions, find feed back and so on.

I will install the clutch with some help from people who know how to properly install the clutch. I can go to a auto work shop for people who work on their own cars, that I am able to do many different jobs on the car. I dont have to go to a paid shop for everything. I have done quite a bit on my car and was taught how to do quite a bit, but the things I ask are either because I dont know and cant find the info I am looking for or I want to get knowledge and opinions. That is how a person learns.

The problem with asking mechanics here is that each shop has their own perferance, if its a retail shop like Autobacs or a dealer shop or some other shops, they will not install anything that is not considered "Vehicle registration certified" or if you dont have the special registration done showing that the car was registered officially(paying extra fees) with the aftermarket approved for road parts. Also some shops dont have the answers. I asked Nissan about the Nismo clutch parts. They didnt have any answer. All that they would say is that it is not legal to use it on the road. It is legal but since its not a OEM Nissan part, they wont put it on the car, but you can order Nismo parts from them.

Where I live is close to the Nissan OEM parts factory and Nismo Parts factory, so easy to get parts new.

breaker1845 Community Regular

breaker1845

Posted
Posted

If you are going to use a Nismo coppermix then you need the new pressure plate that you asked about before. You can buy a Nismo lightened flywheel but some clutch experts don't recommend them and neither would I for your car because of the changes it creates with your car, others may recommend differently. Just make sure you machine the stock flywheel.

You should notice the Nismo will feel much like a stock clutch and not very hard to press the pedal compared to some aftermarket ones. Noise is also minimal or non existent much like a stock clutch but more durable.

It is also recommended that you don't change Master or slaves over to Nismo with the new clutch, you can retain the stock ones.

Make sure you take the time to install it properly, bleed it properly and have the clutch pedal adjusted to the right amount and allow the clutch to wear in for a bit before you decide to do any launches with it.

While you have the chance, replace all of the bearings you can access that aren't provided with the kit so you can freshen up car a bit. Rear main seal, input shaft bearing, etc might be worth inspecting and getting those items replaced also if you can get the parts quite easily.

Nismo 3.2ish Grand Master

Nismo 3.2ish

Posted
Posted
  On 02/04/2015 at 2:50 AM, yoshiii335 said:

Yes I have researched. I have found a couple different ones I want to use, I am asking for opinions because maybe someone has used a particular brand and model that I listed and can give me feed back from their experience.

Thanks for your reply.

Everyone here is so quick to say search search, well I did search, I came here with specific models. This is a forum where people are supposed to be able to ask opioions, find feed back and so on.

Yeah , I had the same experience with the "go search" bit and some are long and drawn out , when it would have been easier just to give you their opinion in half the words.

The trouble searching is that when you finally find the topic you are interested in it can be 5 - 10 years old and you have to try and get it started again and as there are new products coming into the market place all the time.

The good news is there are a lot of blokes on this forum that will give you great advice and help whenever they can and for a bloke like me that knew/knows nothing about modifying cars it saved me a lot of time and money.

I found if you google your topic it can lead you to some threads on SAU and go from there.

I just had a coppermix twin C Spec installed in my R34GTR and did have a Nismo slave Cylinder installed with it, it is great to use. Peddle takes up close to the top, this was good for me as I am a short arse and could go back a click or two and make my driving position better for me, haha

75coupe Grand Master

75coupe

Posted
Posted

I guess google is hard to operate for some.

You can limit search results to country, website, age, particular keywords etc... Its really not that hard...

Ive been a member since 2006, have started approx 8threads...

Have modified my car extensively with knowledge gained from sau and the rest of the net... Mostly using google searches...

So when someone says search, its because chances are someone has asked the same questions previously... 20yr old car, heaps of people have them and modify them and yep its all been done before...

I dare you to ask me a question i cant find the answer to on the web...

  • Like 1
Hadouken Grand Master

Hadouken

Posted
Posted

So looks like I'll just search for you.

And for good reason we tell you to search. Some of us have been on here for years.

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/311033-npc-clutches/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/398503-which-clutch-s/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/432850-jb-or-npc-clutch-for-32-gtr/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407627-clutch-to-suit-a-32-gtr-300kw/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/446705-npc-performance-clutches-thumbs-up/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/402176-what-clutch-do-you-have/

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371924-clutch-choice/

This took me 2 minutes.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • 25zenki
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By 25zenki · Posted

      Maf is a question mark but TPS  I have set at 0.47, the fact that I’m getting proper voltage range out of it with the key on leads me to believe it’s functioning properly. I’m getting proper voltages on basically everything. I still need to look up voltage ranges for z32 maf and test that 
    • 25zenki
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By 25zenki · Posted

      Honestly no not at all, but it’s a very basic tune, it’s stock injectors q45 tps and z32 maf. Other than that it’s a completely stock base map. The file is from nistune and from my understanding if it was tune related I would be able to unplug maf and tps and it would still start even if it was a really shitty start. I have tried starting it with coolant temp, maf, and tps unplugged none of those 3 togethor or individually changes anything 
    • Matt Z
      SAU NSW - Bathurst Run 2025

      By Matt Z · Posted

      🏆 Skyline Supremacy Meets Mount Panorama Magic 🏆 Join SAU NSW as we take the long way to Bathurst, the home of GTR greatness. Saturday 30th August 2025 7:00AM Meeting Hanna Park North Richmond 7:30AM Departure Cruise Via Bells of Line Road 9:00AM Arrival to Stop 1: Golden Poplars Meadow Flat 9:45AM Arrival to Final Destination: Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit Meet Location: Hanna Park North Richmond Stop 1: Golden Poplars Meadow Flat Final Destination: Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit   *Disclaimer* There will be a lead and follow car so no one should get lost. If you would like to attend or bring others along please put your name down and a +1 as numbers will be needed prior! This is NOT a race and we will all be adhering to all road rules. If this is what you want please come to one of our many track days. This is an official SAU:NSW event and will be run under a CAMS permit. One of the things that really sets our club apart is our commitment to being true enthusiasts. When on normal roads we strive to maintain good relations with the authorities as well as the public in general. When attending one of Skylines Australia NSW events please try to: • Be aware of surrounding environment and act accordingly. • Drive courteously on the state’s roads as a true enthusiast should. • Understand how important it is to maintain the good name of SAU NSW and thus, treat others accordingly. • Any misbehavior will not be tolerated and you will be asked to leave.
    • soviet_merlin
      My BMW E39 528i touring

      By soviet_merlin · Posted

      What does it look like with highway driving? And yes, I had a similar thought as Duncan. It looks quite similar in my Stagea and I have made myself accept it as normal. Might have to look into it some day   Highway gets as low as 10l/100km on my end so I'm not as worried about it being a mechanical issue. More likely just the tune on the haltech.
    • OST Micah
      RH9 R32 GTR Build Thread

      By OST Micah · Posted

      While I was waiting for the new parts to come in for the charge pipe and radiator I decided to do some turbo modification. The drive pressure (exhaust backpressure) was a lot higher that I thought it should be. For 32lbs of boost drive was 55lbs. The turbine housing is a 1.10AR and my turbo builder has suggested to go to a 1.25AR. To test if a larger AR would do anything to reduce drive pressure AND not spend any money I decided to hog out the divider in my current housing. I removed it from the inlet and the whole way through the housing.  After reassembly and testing it doesn't look like this modification did anything for reducing drive pressure or requiring more fuel (making more power). Oh well, it was worth a shot. We'll get some data at the track if it makes it past the 60ft. I also machined a $7 shift knob off Amazon to fit my Stillway shifter since I didn't like the Stillway shift knob. Next on the list was the radiator replacement and fabrication of a new intercooler tube that had no silicon coupler. No pictures of this - I was short on time each night after work to get this done and didn't stop to take pictures.  Next was to get the clutch disks out and replaced. Previously when installing the dogbox I had ordered a set of the same sintered iron disks I had been running because I switched to the 26-spline input shaft. I thought it was odd that they didn't have any markings or brand name on them like all my old disks had but installed them anyway. At the track I could not get the clutch to lock up using my normal strategies. After two track nights I reached out to the clutch manufacturer and ask their thoughts. They said they had to switch the material out because they were having trouble getting the original material and that this new material would not take to being slipped very well.  So out with the first set of 26-spline disks and in with the correct material 26-spline disks. While I had the trans out I added an inspection/service hole. I've wanted one of these for a while. Now I can have a look at things and change the front cover shimming when needed (clutch wear). I hustled and got the clutch change done in a few hours on a Saturday. Hopped in the car and drove home. On the way home I did a 1-3 pull. When shifting from 2nd to 3rd the core plug in the back of the cylinder head popped out and dumped all the coolant. Thankfully I was only 30 seconds from home and coasted it there. Datalog showed nothing unusual and 2.5psi of coolant pressure. That plug has been in there since 1992 but I guess it worked its way out. Pulled the trans AGAIN and replaced the plug, JB welded it in, and made a brace. Also deleted the head drain I had added in during the bearing issue fiasco.  I am currently changing my boost control plumbing to make it cleaner. After that is done I'll make another attempt at getting past the 60.
×
×
  • Create New...