Educated Guess At The Final Tune Results

[luke gtr]

Ethanol sensor. It shouldn't be an issue anymore.

how does it go starting at low temp?

Is that not the reason xklaba didn't take his?

[Anfanee]

/Thread?

[Nismo 3.2ish]

What workshop was he from?

Does most of his own work I think. He also drives in a few different competitions, Hill climb ect.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

how does it go starting at low temp?

Is that not the reason xklaba didn't take his?

1 degree at 5:30am didn't help I think , haha

[Mick_o]

If it's the turbo selection that is causing these issues.... Everything else is irrelevant. See what the new tuner says.

You're dreaming its not out of puff & i don't know how you're jumping to that conclusion?! As history repeats you can bet these blokes haven't done their job properly AGAIN! Odds are the boost control hasn't been played with properly or they have piss weak springs in the wastegates. But falling on its ass like that at 5500 isn't showing the 6262 being all in IMO pretty sure itd taper off more gradually then just drop off the planet like that. It is a 705hp turbo FFS and hes using over 500 of it currently.

[jangles]

You're dreaming its not out of puff & i don't know how you're jumping to that conclusion?! As history repeats you can bet these blokes haven't done their job properly AGAIN! Odds are the boost control hasn't been played with properly or they have piss weak springs in the wastegates. But falling on its ass like that at 5500 isn't showing the 6262 being all in IMO pretty sure itd taper off more gradually then just drop off the planet like that. It is a 705hp turbo FFS and hes using over 500 of it currently.

Thats your conclusion.

[Lithium]

Thats your conclusion.

While I don't think that turbo is necessarily the best option for this setup, I tend to agree that the turbo is not the most likely cause of what is being seen. Again a shame that there appears to not be better communication from the previous tuner.

[Piggaz]

how does it go starting at low temp?

Is that not the reason xklaba didn't take his?

Never had an issue. Even down at Cootamunda in the middle of winter, left outside at the hotel. That was bloody cold that morning too.

Get the tuner to do a PROPER cold start.

[Hadouken]

Mine doesn't have a problem either. Might take longer on cold as morning. But will start

[MagicMikeZ32]

E85 is cheating

[GTR_JOEY]

Never had a problem with mine either.. Would start first time, 6:30 am in the Middle of winter on Ethenol.

[XKLABA]

The problem I have is my car was tuned to in summer where the mournings are still over 15deg so setting it up for 0 deg is a guess at best, it starts 6 deg with a bit of whinding, less then 10 seconds

It just wasn't looking like starting and at 5:30am with my fuel pump I didn't want to sit there whinding for however long it would have taking to start upsetting my already dickhead neighbours

I also have cold Denso race plugs which wouldn't cold starts

[luke gtr]

Fair enough.

Now, I need availability near my work or home.....

or, stick with 98.

[XGTRX]

You're dreaming its not out of puff & i don't know how you're jumping to that conclusion?! As history repeats you can bet these blokes haven't done their job properly AGAIN! Odds are the boost control hasn't been played with properly or they have piss weak springs in the wastegates. But falling on its ass like that at 5500 isn't showing the 6262 being all in IMO pretty sure itd taper off more gradually then just drop off the planet like that. It is a 705hp turbo FFS and hes using over 500 of it currently.

Maybe, would be pretty disappointed if the workshop didn't sort that out.

And boost can drop like that if the the rear is beyond its VE especially if manifold pressures were to rise and this would obviously crack open the gate amongst other things. I still think the .82/62 rear is way too small for a 3.2.

Pete, seriously....Don't worry about all this response rubbish, just go and buy yourself a GT42 and be done with it. Rev the f@$king thing past 3000 and be happy with the face stretch when it comes on. Been done hundreds of times before and it just works.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Fair enough.

Now, I need availability near my work or home.....

or, stick with 98.

I know what you mean, I would have to drive about 200Klm to get it and it would be just about 3/4 empty when I got home.

Different deal if you are doing something special with it, fill a few cans. Thats were the flex fuel sensor will come in, use it when it suites you

[Stixbnr32]

I so agree

Maybe, would be pretty disappointed if the workshop didn't sort that out.
And boost can drop like that if the the rear is beyond its VE especially if manifold pressures were to rise and this would obviously crack open the gate amongst other things. I still think the .82/62 rear is way too small for a 3.2.
Pete, seriously....Don't worry about all this response rubbish, just go and buy yourself a GT42 and be done with it. Rev the f@$king thing past 3000 and be happy with the face stretch when it comes on. Been done hundreds of times before and it just works.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

I so agree

Pete, seriously....Don't worry about all this response rubbish, just go and buy yourself a GT42 and be done with it. Rev the f@$king thing past 3000 and be happy with the face stretch when it comes on. Been done hundreds of times before and it just works.

No worries mate, all good.

Had a 80klm drive this morning to get the cobwebs out, good stuff!

[JH32]

Take car to Jez

End thread

Yep well this thread will only ever be more supposition until the car goes to another dyno to find out what is really going on. At least if it goes to DVS Performance he can read some of the history behind it here.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Yep well this thread will only ever be more supposition until the car goes to another dyno to find out what is really going on. At least if it goes to DVS Performance he can read some of the history behind it here.

SORRY, it cannot be over until the " Final Tune " after this 3.2 build is finished, so hopefully, very soon

Probably will not be too much KW difference but might change were it starts kicking in ?

[Lithium]

And boost can drop like that if the the rear is beyond its VE especially if manifold pressures were to rise and this would obviously crack open the gate amongst other things. I still think the .82/62 rear is way too small for a 3.2.

Pete, seriously....Don't worry about all this response rubbish, just go and buy yourself a GT42 and be done with it. Rev the f@$king thing past 3000 and be happy with the face stretch when it comes on. Been done hundreds of times before and it just works.

Never heard of an external wastegate opening due to exhaust pressure tbh, I'd consider it a design issue if it did - by function definition they are meant to block any flow until the reference pressures met targets - especially if it had both ports utilised.

In regards to VE dropping, that's just going to mean boost pressure will go up for a given airflow - the 62mm hot side is proven to flow much much more than Pete's setup is asking of it... so while I agree it's hotside is way too small for that setup (.8x twin scroll 62mm on a 3.2 - what the actual f**k? I didn't realise...) IMHO I think that explanation doesn't add up. In saying that, it's making good power and if Pete is happy with it then really all that really seems to be needed is making sure the mechanical and tune situation is on point and enjoy.

Things don't seem to be necessarily optimal, but I'm not expecting to see miraculous improvements in power - perhaps some improvement in power delivery if it turns out the intake cam proves to be excessively retarded in practice.