GTRPSI Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If your issue is in the heads to piston crown shape (we have not established that yet), you could remove the quench pads however that would drop your compression further. (like your typical drag head builds) If it is from the chamber, my guess is the piston crown shape, to have a recess leaves a large area for combustion, those sharp valve reliefs arnt helping. However before you go that far into things, have you checked your knock sensors and how they are mounted? Did the tuner try some external ones? On a side note, my domes stick up about half of Shootas for around a 8.5:1 with a 26 head in a 30 block. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7523295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzqld Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Yeah that's right, don't know for sure if that's it yet. Just getting some ideas. Perhaps I could try smooth out the valve reliefs a bit on the Pistons, take off that sharp edge. I've got two sensors on the block (bf falcon sensors) I have bungs that screw in to block and the sensor bolts onto that. And tuner tried his as well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7523350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Could be caused by timing scatter. How have you setup the idler and tensioner? Stock location or above water pump? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7523354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruvyouskyrine Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Why are you using BF falcon knock sensors? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7523459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzqld Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Tensioner above water pump as guide says and idler down in stock location. Using BF sensors as my tuner recommended them and uses them for tuning (Bosch sensor). Sent pics of Pistons and head to Lewis engines and he's done a few of these combos recently and thinks it should be fine with those Pistons. Edited April 27, 2015 by Huzqld Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7523482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch rb30 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 did you google the part number on the pistons? i get 11.3cc dish WISECO 6577M87 PRO TRU PISTONS $132.22 Pro Tru Pistons; Sport Compact Series; Replacement/Individual Piston; Recommended RingSet: 8700XX; Rings & Pins IncludedPart Number: 6577M87SPECS:Comp Ratio: 7.0:1Rod: 152.5Bore: 87mmComp Height: 32Dome Volume: -11.3Stroke: 85Gram Weight: 384 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7525589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Last year Blah_Blah had an issue with his car not making power as it wouldn't take any timing. Unopened Rb25. Turns out the cas was dodgy. Replaced it and boom, power made as expected. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7525596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzqld Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) I didn't bother googling them tbh. They cc'd up to 9... So maybe that was a stuff up, not sure. Either way it brings the comp to 8.7:1 if they are -11.3cc so that's fine, not make or break. Cheers Ben, that' something to try What were the symptoms of that apart from not taking timing and making power? *found the thread. Will have a read Edited April 30, 2015 by Huzqld Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7526048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm sure you'll read for yourself, but basically his car wouldn't take timing as it should have, was knocking and not making power for an unknown reason, with a known engine turbo combo. Cas replaced , issue gone. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7526254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmetaL Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 My 2530 Neo from Rips has stock bottom end and is 9.3:1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7528915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 My 2530 Neo from Rips has stock bottom end and is 9.3:1Yep. Stock pistons aren't dished . Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7528919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzqld Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Changed a couple things. Cam-tech 270 9.2mm cams Got rid of the CAS completely And used a different tuner, He still uses the exact same model dyno. 420HP @22psi AFR in the 11s Boost falling off up top, we couldn't get it to make anymore. So wastegate is on the cards later on (We could of put some more preload on the actuator but left it there). Also injectors are starting to get up there. 660cc @ 80-something % duty cycle. Happy with the way it runs and also the power at that boost level. Through an Auto Edited June 23, 2015 by Huzqld 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455838-new-motor-making-no-power/page/2/#findComment-7555063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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