Racepace Tein Vs Others

[anon32]

Hey guys been lurking for a while.

Just starting a build and wanting to know what is the deal with race pace tein suspension.

From what I read its the ducks nuts for street and track duties that won't rattle our your teeth.

But is there another option or is this is it. Just wanting to compare all products be for pulling the trigger.

[GTR_JOEY]

You won't find an off the shelf coil over any where near as good from what I've / been told. Especially when it comes to all round usability ie track, drag and street.

I just recently bought a second hand set off tein from Japan, they will be getting the Racepace treatment soon

[XKLABA]

I have Nismo R tunes ( Ohlins Flag Rs ) i bought of Piggaz that i changed the spring rates on and played with the bound and rebound setting and i can't complain about them, i think they are pretty good, they don't rattle and they absorb the bumps really well given the suspension travel these cars have or lack there of

[scotty nm35]

I just installed MCA reds in the Evo, so glad I did. I was tossing up between Shockworks and MCA for months. Both offer great service and in house re-valving, replacement springs and parts are always on hand for very reasonable prices.

I went MCA in the end due to their time attack results, they definitely know their shit.

[BBGTR]

I've had Racepace TEINS in for about 8 years and have nothing but good to say about them. Lots and lots of track time and very flexible with adjustments (moving between Winton, Sandown and PI). They are able to control big spring rates well, particularly with the valving changes they make its a huge improvement in bump over a lower end bilstein for example.

[GTR_JOEY]

I've had Racepace TEINS in for about 8 years and have nothing but good to say about them. Lots and lots of track time and very flexible with adjustments (moving between Winton, Sandown and PI). They are able to control big spring rates well, particularly with the valving changes they make its a huge improvement in bump over a lower end bilstein for example.

Now I'm really excited about getting them!

[fatz]

I have some ra pace teins and they are very good

A plus well worth the coin

[Sub Boy32]

I have Tein MonoFlex on my car, and although they are very good, when the time comes to move them on, I will be getting some MCA's......after getting to know Murry and Josh at MCA you realy get to realise how much of an understanding of suspension they have. They punch well above their weight in building winning shocks for track, rallying and more recently time attack.

[GTR_JOEY]

Tein monoflex are not the same thing as what we are talking about

[Sub Boy32]

My bad.....still same brand

Was more about MCA brand as an option.....

Edited May 10, 2015 by Sub Boy32

[fatz]

I need to take piss bins car for a drive as he has the Mca golds and I have the Rp teins

That would be the best comparison

Need a bumpy racetrack to see which is better

[GTR_JOEY]

I need to take piss bins car for a drive as he has the Mca golds and I have the Rp teins

That would be the best comparison

Need a bumpy racetrack to see which is better

Race down Parramatta road

[BBGTR]

My bad.....still same brand

Was more about MCA brand as an option.....

I have TEIN RE's on my car - they are a large monotube shock where I think most of the versions here locally are much smaller twin tube designs. MCA's are v. nice but $$$$

[anon32]

So sounds like mca and racepace teins are the way to go and I would be happy with either.

[JH32]

I just installed MCA reds in the Evo, so glad I did. I was tossing up between Shockworks and MCA for months. Both offer great service and in house re-valving, replacement springs and parts are always on hand for very reasonable prices.

I went MCA in the end due to their time attack results, they definitely know their shit.

How are the MCA red for street driving? A mate has them in his S15 and reckons they're pretty harsh for the street but good at the track. MCA blue might be a reasonable compromise for the street?

[niZmO_Man]

MCA Blue is (judging from my mate's CT9 Evo) comfy on the street.

[scotty nm35]

How are the MCA red for street driving? A mate has them in his S15 and reckons they're pretty harsh for the street but good at the track. MCA blue might be a reasonable compromise for the street?

My reds are fine for the street, although I went 1kg less front and rear than what they recommended for the track. They are about to release an intermediate purple Xover version in between the reds and blues which may be more suited.

[anon32]

So I messaged MCA and got a reply from Josh.

Let me start by saying I can see why people like them, Josh's customer service is second to none.

He told me there are the versions of the new coilover that is between the red and blue series.

X-C - comfort road orientated, great ride quality

X-D - drift orientated

X-R - 70% track 30% road setup, great value for the level of performance you get and still quite streetable.

So I asked about a red series that is valves or set up the sane as the X-R series and what would be the difference.

And I received this great reply.

"Hi Mitch

Yes in theory, with the right kind of requirements, you could end up with something similar to the X-R valving. With other models of cars that have mcpherson strut type suspension, like Subarus, Evos, Silvias, etc, there would be many different external features, however in the case of the skyline being just a typical coilover type of suspension there is much less you can do externally, but that's also why they are much cheaper than the other types of cars. So the main difference with the Reds if the case arose that the valving was to be similar to the X-Rs would be that the Reds go through a much higher quality control system.

We take a lot of time with the build of the reds, double checking everything and making sure each component is perfectly clean before assembling. They also do still benefit from a high grade oil (the same as used in our golds) which handles high temps a lot better. Then each shock is thoroughly dyno tested. We run each one on the dyno at various damper adjuster positions to make sure everything is working correctly, we then compare the shocks left to right to make sure that they are even and there's no slight differences. It is also used as a test for seals as they are put under load, and gives everything a heat cycle and potentially frees up any initial friction there might be before installation. If at any stage something isn't exactly how we'd like it, it's pulled apart and fixed and re-dynoed. Plus there's the time taken to make sure that valving similar to the X-R would be ideal for you in the first place.

Hope that explains it ok.

Let me know what you think.

Regards

Josh

"

[Blackkers]

These arrived today,

I'll let you know what I think but my comparison is some shitty old school jap twin tube design which has springs too low for the shock and overheats after 3-5 laps. Once the car is hot it stops controlling the spring and the car sways, pogos and slides.

10KG front

6KG rear.

Josh suggested 12/7 or 12/7.5 from memory. I just wanted a bit softer while keeping a slightly stiffer rear end. Last outing I had too much understeer so we will see how this goes

One of the reasons I went MCA is because Josh said that If I don't like the spring combo I can send them back and swap them out at no cost. As long as they aren't damaged he will exchange them for free. He didn't specify a time frame on this but I imagine it would have to be soon after they are installed.

Buying the wrong springs isn't the end of the world anyway as they are $50 each brand new from MCA.

If you are really hardcore or if you love pulling your coilovers out you could even have 2 sets of springs!

Edited May 19, 2015 by Blackkers

[anon32]

They look like a great bit of kit