220rwkw GTST vs GTR

[Black33]

Just wondering if someone can give me an idea of how an r33 gtst with 220rwkw compares to a GTR (GTR which is stock to lightly modified with exhaust, FMIC and a bit more boost).

Which would feel faster? Ignoring the fact that a gtst with that sort of power struggles to get all the power down off the line (which I tend to enjoy )

thanks

[predator]

well 220rwkw should get a mid-12 sec time with a good driver and correct rear end setup.

A mildly modified GTR will probably also run that time

.. roughly equivelent - but like you say the traction of the GTS-T is the weak point.

[Black33]

yeah but I don't really mind it that much, I think it teaches you to be a good driver

So you would think that they should be around the same, say accelerating in second gear?

ps. I thought 220rwkw's would give more like a high 12 sec?

[ferni]

I have a lightly modified GTR as you say, exaust, bit more boost etc..

couple of mats have ~220rwkw 33gtsts...

MSPEC (he's on here), if i launch, he has no chance, i get a good 3 or so car lengths on him, and its all over... when he launches and i dont, he beats me over the 1/4 by about a car length or 2.... rolling in 2nd gear as you say, i generally pull away slowly, i think because i have longer gears, 8000rpm shift as opposed to his 7000rpm...

[Black33]

sitting in his car, does it feel as fast as yours?

what sort of rwkw is your gtr pushing?

[bbenny]

well i have had a fair bit of experience with Both my 225rwkw GTS and a GTR with similar power and the GTR will always feel faster, it has a more usable power range, it has punch from really down low all the way up top, where my GTS doesnt really punch till about 3,500 - 4000rpm.

launching a GTR is just awesome, the g-force feel is unbeleivable and really freaks out passangers that arent ready for it but the slide action of a GTS is also really fun.

I have also played with a GTR running over 300rwkw and that is better than sex... and have been a passanger in a GTR running 450rwkw and thats just stupid!

[predator]

yeah.. you definitely feel the punch of the GTR from the get go.. just because of the massive torque and two turbos make the power all that much more smoother. You can get a good punch from a well modified gts-t but its not quite the same.

There is no real comparison

[ferni]

The Gtst still feels quick... i think you always get the scare factor more when a passenger, so thier Gtst's always feel as quick as my car.. but being a passenger in my GTR, it just feels more safe/secure/solid, dont know how to describe it..

i have 258rwkw

[Duncan]

of course the gtst is quicker than a gtr with the same power, its about 150kg lighter

[meshmesh]

I have also played with a GTR running over 300rwkw and that is better than sex... and have been a passanger in a GTR running 450rwkw and thats just stupid!

[GTRgeoff]

Getting the power down is a negative...and a positive. It's a bit slippery. when you wheelspin all the way up a mountain stretch in the dande's it's lairy and fun.

To be honest it's a while since I have driven a GTR but the amount of traction means you are going so much faster when you need to brake, so have to brake a lot earlier, and all that extra weight means that on the same tyres it would be pretty damn close on a track.

Ultimately the GTR is a better starting point, but it depends would be the only true answer.

I personally like my RWD style so stick with it for now. I have been thinking of getting rid of 2 cars to get a GTR though. 4 cars is too many sometimes.

[Black33]

I think I need to avoid having a ride in someone's GTR, or else I prob. won't be able to stop myself selling my car for one!

[bbenny]

yeah its bad, i regret all the GTR driving i have done, because nothing has come close to comparison.

they should have a mandatory sign on the steering wheel, stating exactly that once you drive this car everything else seems like crap!

it can cause serious depression amongst people lacking the money to own one... i am one of the unfortunate.