The Americans Are Cranking It Up..........

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Are the ADM cars any different from JDM GT-Rs in terms of specs and equipment? My understanding was they were pretty much identical in that regard but please correct me if I'm wrong. The problem with getting interest for an ADM car outside of Oz is that the rarity is of more local significance to Australia - basically they're rare for Oz because they were white market instead of gray market cars but here in the US and Canada an ADM R32 is just another grey market GT-R with the same specs as any other non-limited edition one.

- JDM:

ADM:

ADM: Outer tail lights become indicators.

ADM: Indicator lights become reverse lights.

ADM: Original reverse lights removed where the number plate sits in the JDM version.

ADM: Number plate holder removed and gap filled in.

ADM: An extra rear brake light was added (stuck) to the rear window, inside.

ADM: The bonnet (hood) had a Nissan Logo badge instead of the "S" badge.

ADM: Only 100 (Legitimate) were built and exported to AUS

Was this to do with the ADR Compliance for local release?|

- Ultimately was to do with the winning of the Australian Touring Car Championship / V8 Supercar Championship from 1990 to 1992.

- And AUS was one of sole export markets out of Japan for the R32 GTR

- And yes, a few things were changed to suite Australian Design Rule (ADR) for the car to be driven in AUS.

It's a different situation compared to the Nismos and N1s because they were rare globally and were factory specials with a different level of equipment from regular GT-Rs. Being that they're factory limited edition cars Nismos are commanding around twice as much as regular GT-Rs here in the States especially with the motorsport connection thrown in. An ADM car on the other hand would be viewed by a non-Australian as just another GT-R that came from overseas, just not from Japan, and that may actually hurt interest because import fans here in the US are all about the connection to the land of the Rising Sun so honestly the only person I can see that might be willing to pay a premium for an ADM car would be an expat Aussie. I'm not surprised at all that the rarity of the ADM cars is getting lost on us North Americans since to us it's just like deciding between two hot girls who happen to be twins and have PhDs but one wants you to take her out for filet mignon while the other just wants to go grab a burger.

- I see what you are saying.

- Nismo Editions and N1's fetch a high price due to the limited number of production of those cars in particular and for it's originality.

- ADM's would only be special to the people in AUS as it was specifically delivered to us, unless everyone else around the world can see past that...

- Here is a list of the ADM's listed and counting so far and more pics of JDM vs ADM: http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343750-aussie-delivered-r32-gtrs/page-26#entry6309900

[GSX-R35]

Are the ADM cars any different from JDM GT-Rs in terms of specs and equipment? My understanding was they were pretty much identical in that regard but please correct me if I'm wrong. The problem with getting interest for an ADM car outside of Oz is that the rarity is of more local significance to Australia - basically they're rare for Oz because they were white market instead of gray market cars but here in the US and Canada an ADM R32 is just another grey market GT-R with the same specs as any other non-limited edition one.

- JDM:

ADM:

ADM: Outer tail lights become indicators.

ADM: Indicator lights become reverse lights.

ADM: Original reverse lights removed where the number plate sits in the JDM version.

ADM: Number plate holder removed and gap filled in.

ADM: An extra rear brake light was added (stuck) to the rear window, inside.

ADM: The bonnet (hood) had a Nissan Logo badge instead of the "S" badge.

ADM: Only 100 (Legitimate) were built and exported to AUS

Was this to do with the ADR Compliance for local release?|

- Ultimately was to do with the winning of the Australian Touring Car Championship / V8 Supercar Championship from 1990 to 1992.

- And AUS was one of sole export markets out of Japan for the R32 GTR

- And yes, a few things were changed to suite Australian Design Rule (ADR) for the car to be driven in AUS.

It's a different situation compared to the Nismos and N1s because they were rare globally and were factory specials with a different level of equipment from regular GT-Rs. Being that they're factory limited edition cars Nismos are commanding around twice as much as regular GT-Rs here in the States especially with the motorsport connection thrown in. An ADM car on the other hand would be viewed by a non-Australian as just another GT-R that came from overseas, just not from Japan, and that may actually hurt interest because import fans here in the US are all about the connection to the land of the Rising Sun so honestly the only person I can see that might be willing to pay a premium for an ADM car would be an expat Aussie. I'm not surprised at all that the rarity of the ADM cars is getting lost on us North Americans since to us it's just like deciding between two hot girls who happen to be twins and have PhDs but one wants you to take her out for filet mignon while the other just wants to go grab a burger.

- I see what you are saying.

- Nismo Editions and N1's fetch a high price due to the limited number of production of those cars in particular and for it's originality.

- ADM's would only be special to the people in AUS as it was specifically delivered to us, unless everyone else around the world can see past that...

- Here is a list of the ADM's listed and counting so far and more pics of JDM vs ADM: http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343750-aussie-delivered-r32-gtrs/page-26#entry6309900

Thanks for the interesting info. Were the ADM cars specifically needed for the R32 to be eligible in ATCC? And did they have any unique marking to distinguish them like an ADM only plaque, serial plate or something? I ask because those are the kinds of details that might entice a buyer outside Oz to pay a higher price - especially the motorsport angle. If presented correctly I can see someone be more willing to pay extra although I think it still won't be the kind of prices Nismos are commanding right now here in the US.

How much is a good ADM R32 trading for now over there? I can compare that to the prices other R32s are going for over here to gauge what the market would be.

[Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR]

Thanks for the interesting info. Were the ADM cars specifically needed for the R32 to be eligible in ATCC? And did they have any unique marking to distinguish them like an ADM only plaque, serial plate or something? I ask because those are the kinds of details that might entice a buyer outside Oz to pay a higher price - especially the motorsport angle. If presented correctly I can see someone be more willing to pay extra although I think it still won't be the kind of prices Nismos are commanding right now here in the US.

How much is a good ADM R32 trading for now over there? I can compare that to the prices other R32s are going for over here to gauge what the market would be.

Ok.......... This book tells it all.........http://www.pitstop.net.au/products/aussie-godzilla--the-r32-gt-r-arrives-downunder/

Fundamentally, when the R32 was released the Ford Sierra Cosworth RS 500 was the dominant touring car with the BMW E30 M3 a slightly lesser contender. Neither of these cars were sold in Australia. It was left to the locally built Holden Commodore to fly the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" flag.

With the expected success of the GT-R Nissan Australia were very concerned with the backlash of yet another car the punters couldn't buy.

The car was already homologated in Japan for Group A so there was no need to sell any here.

It was Nissan's Australian marketing arm that really wanted to capitalise on the dominance of the R32.

The book explains the boardroom battles to eventually get the 100 cars approved and sold through the Australian Nissan dealer network.

The cars naturally got Australian build and compliance plates and a unique 17 digit VIN as per attached pic.

The values range considerably from modified high mileage cars to very low mileage 100% original cars with the latters being worth twice what the formers are worth.

Cheers,

Bob.

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Thanks for the interesting info. Were the ADM cars specifically needed for the R32 to be eligible in ATCC?

- All good

- I would say say so as about 6 or more cars were used for ATCC and other event type races.

And did they have any unique marking to distinguish them like an ADM only plaque, serial plate or something? I ask because those are the kinds of details that might entice a buyer outside Oz to pay a higher price - especially the motorsport angle.

- Like what Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR... And he has a prime example of an ADM R32 GTR.

- If you look in the thread I have posted, Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR would have posted some example pics

If presented correctly I can see someone be more willing to pay extra although I think it still won't be the kind of prices Nismos are commanding right now here in the US.

How much is a good ADM R32 trading for now over there? I can compare that to the prices other R32s are going for over here to gauge what the market would be.

- Back in the day of the early '90's, ADM R32 GTR's sold for $110,000 AUS, they can still fetch a high price tag but in the eyes of the seller, buyer.

[djr81]

Ok.......... This book tells it all.........http://www.pitstop.net.au/products/aussie-godzilla--the-r32-gt-r-arrives-downunder/

Fundamentally, when the R32 was released the Ford Sierra Cosworth RS 500 was the dominant touring car with the BMW E30 M3 a slightly lesser contender. Neither of these cars were sold in Australia. It was left to the locally built Holden Commodore to fly the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" flag.

With the expected success of the GT-R Nissan Australia were very concerned with the backlash of yet another car the punters couldn't buy.

The car was already homologated in Japan for Group A so there was no need to sell any here.

It was Nissan's Australian marketing arm that really wanted to capitalise on the dominance of the R32.

The book explains the boardroom battles to eventually get the 100 cars approved and sold through the Australian Nissan dealer network.

The cars naturally got Australian build and compliance plates and a unique 17 digit VIN as per attached pic.

The values range considerably from modified high mileage cars to very low mileage 100% original cars with the latters being worth twice what the formers are worth.

Cheers,

Bob.

The book any good Bob?

[Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR]

The book any good Bob?

Yes, for $25 its a great buy. Gives you a good insight of what happened behind the scenes.

Bob.

[GSX-R35]

Yes, for $25 its a great buy. Gives you a good insight of what happened behind the scenes.

Bob.

Thanks for all the cool info. I knew some of the Skyline's history in Oz from a couple of reference books and being a fan of V8 Supercars but this additional info is very interesting. I'm probably going to have to ask my brother who now lives in Adelaide to pick me up a copy of that book if I can't order it online myself to have it shipped to me here in the US. I have a pretty decent collection of Skyline and GT-R books and memorabilia and that book looks like it'd be a good addition lol.

By the way, any pics of the Nissan bonnet logo on the ADM cars? I'm curious what it looked like versus the JDM S. I tried googling ADM car pics but couldn't find a decent pic.

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By the way, any pics of the Nissan bonnet logo on the ADM cars? I'm curious what it looked like versus the JDM S. I tried googling ADM car pics but couldn't find a decent pic.

JDM:

ADM:

Cheers,

Bob.

[GSX-R35]

Thanks! Weird seeing the Nissan logo instead of the S lol.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Thanks! Weird seeing the Nissan logo instead of the S lol.

Yeah, I think so too.

When I first saw it, I thought someone just stuck a Nissan Logo badge on...

Turns out, that is how the ADM version is

[Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR]

Ironically, I really struggled to get one of these but ended up getting the last one in Australia.

The packaging was the old Nissan red white and blue.

The white was a creamy yellow and it had half an inch of dust on it!

I couldn't find this shape or style on any other model. I emailed 4 different vendors around the world with the part number but all came back NLA.

Bob.

[GSX-R35]

Ironically, I really struggled to get one of these but ended up getting the last one in Australia.

The packaging was the old Nissan red white and blue.

The white was a creamy yellow and it had half an inch of dust on it!

I couldn't find this shape or style on any other model. I emailed 4 different vendors around the world with the part number but all came back NLA.

Bob.

Lucky you for getting that part lol. I've been searching high and low for parts to restore my Nismo as well so I can relate to the search. Ironically you guys in Australia seem to have a decent stockpile of certain parts - I just placed my third order with Kudos Motorsports, this time for the outer door moldings (the ones below the side glass) after both Amayama and RHDJapan said they were backordered with either no expected date of availability or not until October! I would have thought the motherland would be more likely to have parts but maybe the supply is drying up and us Americans could be at fault with all the new old R32s were buying lol.

[Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR]

Lucky you for getting that part lol. I've been searching high and low for parts to restore my Nismo as well so I can relate to the search. Ironically you guys in Australia seem to have a decent stockpile of certain parts - I just placed my third order with Kudos Motorsports, this time for the outer door moldings (the ones below the side glass) after both Amayama and RHDJapan said they were backordered with either no expected date of availability or not until October! I would have thought the motherland would be more likely to have parts but maybe the supply is drying up and us Americans could be at fault with all the new old R32s were buying lol.

Are you talking about the rubber moulding that hooks onto the edge of the mirror and goes under the door in a kind of U shape?

And yes, I find Kudos Motorsports very good.

Thanks,

Bob.

[pol1on1]

Hi guys

Sorry about thread raid but since we talking about it.

And yes I've used the search bar with no results. Only r32 n r35 differences.

Question is can you tell apart the r33, r34 GT-R ADM vs JDM?

Btw thanks for the R32 photos makes it really clear now.

[djr81]

Hi guys

Sorry about thread raid but since we talking about it.

And yes I've used the search bar with no results. Only r32 n r35 differences.

Question is can you tell apart the r33, r34 GT-R ADM vs JDM?

Btw thanks for the R32 photos makes it really clear now.

Yes. There never were any R33s nor R34s sold by Nissan in Australia. So no R33 or R34 ADM. They don't exist.

Edited June 3, 2015 by djr81

[GSX-R35]

Are you talking about the rubber moulding that hooks onto the edge of the mirror and goes under the door in a kind of U shape?

And yes, I find Kudos Motorsports very good.

Thanks,

Bob.

It's the black strip just above the doors:

http://www.kudosmotorsports.com/catalog/genuine-nissan-pitwork-moulding-outer-door-rhs-nissan-skyline-r32-gtr-gts-gts25-gts4-gtst-door-coupe-p-1693.html

Amazingly Amayama said they were backordered with no expected date of availability. RHDJapan said October. I'm planning on putting my car in for a full respray next month so October (maybe) was too long to wait lol.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Lucky you for getting that part lol. I've been searching high and low for parts to restore my Nismo as well so I can relate to the search. Ironically you guys in Australia seem to have a decent stockpile of certain parts - I just placed my third order with Kudos Motorsports, this time for the outer door moldings (the ones below the side glass) after both Amayama and RHDJapan said they were backordered with either no expected date of availability or not until October! I would have thought the motherland would be more likely to have parts but maybe the supply is drying up and us Americans could be at fault with all the new old R32s were buying lol.

From memory, Nissan dealer in Sydney, NSW have still, quite a lot of parts.

My mechanic has ordered genuine parts from them in the past.

And yes, I was going to say, RHD Japan would be good for you... Are they USA based?

[GSX-R35]

From memory, Nissan dealer in Sydney, NSW have still, quite a lot of parts.

My mechanic has ordered genuine parts from them in the past.

And yes, I was going to say, RHD Japan would be good for you... Are they USA based?

RHDJapan is Osaka based but seem to be owned by a pair of Brits or Aussies based on the names I've seen on my invoices. There's a company called RightDriveUSA here in the US that's an affiliate of a Canadian importer and parts seller but they only sell cars in the US.

RHDJapan is my favorite Japanese parts source so far - great prices and super fast shipping but their OEM part selection is more limited than Amayama or JP Carparts. Got a stonking deal on my Nismo Coppermix twin-plate from them though lol.

[niZmO_Man]

Also check out partsouq.

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RHDJapan is Osaka based but seem to be owned by a pair of Brits or Aussies based on the names I've seen on my invoices. There's a company called RightDriveUSA here in the US that's an affiliate of a Canadian importer and parts seller but they only sell cars in the US.

- I see, thanks for that.

RHDJapan is my favorite Japanese parts source so far - great prices and super fast shipping but their OEM part selection is more limited than Amayama or JP Carparts. Got a stonking deal on my Nismo Coppermix twin-plate from them though lol.

- Yeah, it's a good site.

- A friend also got his Nismo Coppermix from RHD Japan as well for a good price.

- One of the best clutches ever made!