Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I know how tuning works.

I posted the thread for positive answers, and as to where I stand legally over the password protection and him trying to make me pay him hundreds of dollars to unlock the computer.

I have no desire to play with the tune that is in the car, nor have anyone else play with the tune.

I simply wanted to be able to access it for diagnostics, as I said previously.

Well as a photographer, clients commission my work and own the rights to do with as such they please, unless I expressly reserve copy write, then said work is given at a much cheaper rate, all of which is contracted.

The tuner is paid to tune an individual car, not write a program that anyone can use, as such no intellectual property rights exist.

  • Like 2

Well as a photographer, clients commission my work and own the rights to do with as such they please, unless I expressly reserve copy write, then said work is given at a much cheaper rate, all of which is contracted.

The tuner is paid to tune an individual car, not write a program that anyone can use, as such no intellectual property rights exist.

To protect your Patents, Trade Marks and Copy Rights, I thought you also had to have them examined to make sure you are not infringing on someone else's IP and to do this you have to pay for the luxury and it is not cheap, then to keep them there is an annual fee.

I find it hard to believe that someone tuning your car can claim it as IP. Who else would want a tune done for your car and if you were going to another tuner, he would probably think his tuning skills are better anyway. IP protection is very expensive, so????

Anyway, if you can disregard the tune on your ECU and have another tune installed, who gives a shit :)

  • Like 1

When someone payed Leonardo da Vinci to paint Mona Lisa, Leonardo couldn't say "hey you can't draw a mustache on that lovely pout" etc, the persons who commissioned the work owns it, and can do what ever they please with it, i.e. copy it re-draw it, freakin burn if they choose.

...P.S. I've never found any mechanic/ workshop who would give a written quote/ on any repairs/ work , every time I've asked for a written quote I've got nothing but silence, or told to pis'orf

  • Like 1

I think this thread is a dead end.

The Ecu is locked. Got it

You got a new tuner to look at it? So what happened? He couldn't give you a new tune? Or that wasn't the problem?

I still firmly believe that there are 2 sides to each story and your side sounds not so compelling.

the op will decide that not you

Yeah, I think once the question is answered by someone that knows what they are talking about, then it will close itself :)

Is there a Patent Attorney out they in SAU land ????

I reckon it is stupid to think you can still own a procedure that someone else has paid you to do, UNLESS you have made some dumbarse written agreement..

  • Like 1

To Hadouken

Please read the original post which I have re-posted for you.

Take extra notice of the last sentence.

Seeing as this is a forum which relies on people being able to read English.

Long story short, bought a r32 gtr, soon after purchase it stopped and wouldn't start again due to electronic issue, can't access computer due to it having a password, rang the mechanic/tuner who was looking after the gtr, he won't give me the password, and will only unlock it if I give him $400-$500, he (Simon and Greg) from bayside/Southside dynos is in Brisbane and I am located over 100kms away.

Can anyone help me with either a way to get around the password or with legal action against this flamin mongrel???

Edited by Jhols1, 12 June 2015 - 05:00 PM.

I think it is more on why can they lock it and say it is their IP , it would be great to get the answer to the question.

Do they have the legal right to lock your ECU and not give you the password without holding you to ransom. They were paid for the work and then they want money to give you your tune back to you :/

  • Like 1

not true in NSW, although I don't know about QLD. In NSW they can even make enforceable findings, although if they are ignored you need to take the further action (CTTT or local court) if you do need to enforce them

not true in NSW, although I don't know about QLD. In NSW they can even make enforceable findings, although if they are ignored you need to take the further action (CTTT or local court) if you do need to enforce them

in nsw they did sfa when i informed them of a company who was trading with a cancelled abn and insurance. Even when i had proof of their dodgy work and a quote and receipt with all the info on it.

edit: I called multiple times and spoke to multiple people.

Can anyone help me with either a way to get around the password or with legal action against this flamin mongrel???

Which type of ECU is it? Perhaps give the their tech support a buzz and see if there is anything they can do for you or can suggest to bypass the lock.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I think my main complaint with your idea is that there is a veneer of idealism spread across it. You want the simple numbers to make it easier, but all they will do is make it easier for someone to come to the wrong conclusion because the fine details will kick them in the nuts. As it is right now, the tiny bit of arithmetic is NOT the obstacle to understanding what will fit and what will not fit. The reality of trying it is what determines whether it will fit. If you had a "standard rule" that R34 GTT guards have that magic 100mm space from the hub face to whichever side you were worried about, and someone said "excellent, this wheel is only 98mm in that direction, I'll just go spend $4k on them and jam them on my sick ride".....they would just as likely find out that the "standard rule" is not true because the rear subframe is offset to one side by a fairly typical (but variable) 8mm on their car and they only have 92mm on one side and 108 on the other.
    • It still combines inches with mm, especially when you have .5 inches involved, and mm and inches that can go in either direction. This would give a clear idea on both sides of the rim, right away, with no arithmetic. Even better if somebody gives you the dimensions of the arch of multiple cars. i.e GTR may be 125mm, a A80 Supra may be 117mm, or something along those lines. Yes, you can 'know' that going from a 10in rim to a 10.5in rim with the same offset moves both sides about 6mm, but you still have to 'know' that and do the math. Often it's combined. People are going from 9.5 +27 to 10.5 +15. You may do the math to know it, but if it was going from (I had to go look it up to be sure) 241mm/2 - 27 - 93.5mm from the center line to (more math) 266/2 - 15 (118mm) from the center line. Versus 93mm vs 118mm. It's right there. If you know you have a GTT with 100mm guards you can see right away that one is close to flush and the other absolutely won't work. And when someone says "Oh the GTR is 120mm" suddenly you see that the 10.5 +15 is about perfect. (or you go and buy rims with approximately 118mm outward guard space) I think it's safe to say that given one of the most common questions in all modified cars is "How do offsets work" and "How do I know if wheels will fit on my car" that this would be much simpler... Of course, nothing will really change and nobody is going to remanufacture wheels and ditch inches and offset based on this conversation :p We'll all go "18x9+30 will line up pretty close to the guards for a R34 GTT (84mm)" but 'pretty close' is still not really defined (it is now!) and if you really care you still have go measure. Yes it depends on camber and height and dynamic movement, but so do all wheels no matter what you measure it for.
    • But offsets are simple numbers. 8" wheel? Call it 200mm, near enough. +35 offset? OK, so that means the hub face is that far out from the wheel centreline. Which is 2s of mental arithmetic to get to 65mm to outer edge and 135mm to inner. It's hardly any more effort for any other wheel width or offset. As I said, I just close my eyes and can see a picture of the wheel when given the width and offset. That wouldn't help me trust that a marginal fitment would actually go in and clear everything, any more than the supposedly simple numbers you're talking about. I dunno. Maybe I just automatically do numbers.
    • Sure! But you at least have simple numbers instead of 8.5 inches +/mm, relative to your current rims you do maths with as well, and/or compare with OEM diameter, which you also need to know/research/confirm..
×
×
  • Create New...