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Amazing oversight by Chrysler to allow hackers access to some pretty important functions of the car.

I'd hate to know what other manufacturers also suffer from these massive security flaws.

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A load of $hit IMO.

It took them 12 months to write the code to be able to do it but I would bet my left nut that they had to make some modifications to the vehicle to make all of that stuff happen. I don't believe most of the stuff they were controlling in the car would be possible without making modifications.

The full story will come out once people are sick of talking about it and the story needs reinvigorating.

However, it is very interesting to see the potential dangers of having fully 'connected' cars, houses, etc.

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A load of $hit IMO.

It took them 12 months to write the code to be able to do it but I would bet my left nut that they had to make some modifications to the vehicle to make all of that stuff happen. I don't believe most of the stuff they were controlling in the car would be possible without making modifications.

The full story will come out once people are sick of talking about it and the story needs reinvigorating.

However, it is very interesting to see the potential dangers of having fully 'connected' cars, houses, etc.

The one thing that had me scratching my head was the steering wheel turning, but I guess with 'assisted' reverse parking, there'd be servos in there.

It seems extreme to be able to control that much with code, I agree, but then I know so little about new cars and their capabilities through internet connections.

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Next comes the police have power to disable and pull any car over ending the need for high speed chases?

The problem is the hackers working against the system are always better than those working for. The "smarter" cars become the easier this will be. But who knows.

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Next comes the police have power to disable and pull any car over ending the need for high speed chases?

The problem is the hackers working against the system are always better than those working for. The "smarter" cars become the easier this will be. But who knows.

Focused EMP, fry a cars electronics and it will stop.

This is possible. This is how exploits work. I am a software developer and what they explained is essentially an opening into the cars software via an outbound connection. If the vehicle can auto reverse park then they can control the steering and this may explain why they were only able to control steering in reverse.

This is very plausible. The same way a computer can be remotely hacked and controlled, if the electronics in the vehicle are linked via one ECU and you can open and close signals via an outside source then there is good basis to give this credibility. The first of anything connected to a network is very prone to being exploited. I remember when bluetooth became big, you had bluetooth viruses just by walking near someone with an infected mobile which could send you a virus if your phone was actively running bluetooth.

Nothing is impossible.

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I'm also a software dev and have been casually following this for a few yrs... and I'm not surprised at all. Lots of juicy targets once you essentially turn a car into a mobile, internet-connected computer.

Any part of the car that receives data from the internet could have a security hole that would lead to system compromise, and from the sounds of it, everything in the car is connected via a CANbus network, where any subsystem can send commands to any other subsystem, so if you break into the entertainment system (via exploiting, say, a web browser), you can then directly access and disable brake-by-wire or whatever else.

From the sounds of it, the security researchers seem to have found a way to do it without user intervention, which is somewhat more disturbing. Makes me suspect that they've exploited an automatic software/firmware update process for the entertainment module. Which is not a trivial process to create but not really rocket science, esp not for a multi-billion $ car company

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But hey it might mean the end of forking out for aftermarket ECU's if you can easily hack the stock one and tune it!

Also I'd like to think the aviation authorities have their shit together.

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