Vic Wasteland Thread - 15.0

[Birds]

It's easier for someone to watch tv on a couch and pretend it's the truth than to actively live the life

Producers and marketers take advantage of the idea that most reality tv viewers are happy to live vicariously through others, ignorantly watching on and being told how it is

[emts]

So they the same as gamers then...check

[Kinkstaah]

I'd wager gamers aren't quite the same as people watching TV or watching people live the life they can't or won't for some reason.

Kind of like me and this forum

I'd really like to go to Nationals but lol greg car

[Birds]

I don't think there are any games that attempt to prey on people buying into their storylines as real life events, or many gamers for that matter who think that real life would be exactly as it's portrayed in their games.

Gaming is also an active engagement, rather than a passive one, so rather than buying into a supposed true story that is actually obviously fake...you're part of the creation of it...a producer of sorts.

[UNR33L]

Pretty funny world we live in when youtube gamers can buy an aventador and make a song about it lel.

I suppose they're providing entertainment.

[Birds]

There's that pewdiepie South Park ep coming to mind again, about people watching people play games grrr

[UNR33L]

There's that pewdiepie South Park ep coming to mind again, about people watching people play games grrr

Oh that dude has an insane about of subscribres 85m? i think

this guy (KSI) has 10mill subscribers and his aventador, think he does mostly FIFA videos, most of them easily clear 1 mill a year

Edited September 23, 2015 by UNR33L

[Leroy Peterson]

its the free to play games that are poison.

who would spend $85USD on a new vehicle to use? and its not a game changer either since it has to be balanced.

if the whole world uses adblock, does that mean youtoobers stop getting paid by google?

[Birds]

If that actually happened, it's an indirect certainty.

Companies pull out of google advertising due to lack of leads generated, google pays less per view, amount paid to youtuber per viewing goes down.

[Birds]

lol I have a deer hunter game that wants $20 real money for $20,000 hypothetical money (enough to buy one special gun) that would otherwise take you 20 minutes to save up for with in game playing.

Is this the modern equivalent of buying a cheat code magazine / game guide?

[UNR33L]

yeah but smart youtubers put the ad inside the video itself, charging 10k per 100k views..

[Birds]

True dat

[UNR33L]

Hell, one tech channel I watch has like 8 employees

Moral of the story, dropout year 10 to play video games and make videos

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-22/vw-admits-11-million-cars-have-pollution-test-cheating-device/6796740

& HWP makes me do a full EPA test

ABC article eh... that means Pat must be a lefty!

[Rekin]

I wonder how many of those ad views convert to sales?

If the majority watching these videos are kids with no jobs, I would imagine the conversion rate would be pretty low...

Could be a case of companies jumping onto youtube marketing hoping its the next marketing pitch but realise the return isn't there.

Either way, the youtube stars end up the winners parting companies from their marketing dollars.

[Birds]

Hell, one tech channel I watch has like 8 employees

Moral of the story, dropout year 10 to play video games and make videos

Haha. That's the same as sports stars and movie stars and tv celebrities though. We only see the ones who make it and for every one who does there's 5000 wannabes who don't. They either have something special or have put in the hard yards to self promote and probably earned it. But most get lucky off the right formula - someone has to be the most viewed right?

Number of kids I see on cod with a YouTube channel as their emblem trying to get views and make money is ridiculous,

[Leroy Peterson]

parting companies from their marketing dollars.

which they can easily just put in the bin if the product/game/movie is crap.

i think it was a recent Tom Cruise movie that did $60mil in the US after they spent like $125mil on advertising. (but then those kinds of thing gross $200+mil overseas). games on the other hand, piss-poor reviews and its gameover.

[Rekin]

Haha. That's the same as sports stars and movie stars and tv celebrities though. We only see the ones who make it and for every one who does there's 5000 wannabes who don't. They either have something special or have put in the hard yards to self promote and probably earned it. But most get lucky off the right formula - someone has to be the most viewed right?

Number of kids I see on cod with a YouTube channel as their emblem trying to get views and make money is ridiculous,

I wonder if the system can be exploited.

Everyone trying to start from the bottom-up with $0 dollars. What if you spent your house deposit ($50k) on buying likes, views, advertising, sponsored reviews on websites etc.

Hardest part is getting the ball-rolling, im sure money can start the momentum & if the return on investment is Aventador huge, it could be worth the gamble haha.

18-21yr old kids with no money vs. late 20's adult with a chunky deposit to invest with...

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Bought likes don't work as they don't interact.

[Birds]

Make no mistake, YouTube is an entire side industry to Hollywood and much bigger than the traditional mediums of television and movie. Companies devoted solely to producing YouTube vids and trying to make viral videos - have a friend who has worked for a couple of them over in LA and even 1 million views for a video is a huge deal. It's definitely an exploitable industry and does happen. YouTube have complete control over top search matches and order displayed content, featured content etc. No doubt there's a pay off for investing in buying likes and views, but nowhere near striking it lucky with a niche that spreads like word of mouth.

A lot of those kids have had producers approach them and offer to manage etc., some of them have got where they are by having people invest in their character/personality.

Bieber is a good example - started uploading cover vids, got heaps of views, music producers took notice and got on board to invest in him.