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A sensible setup. 250-300kw is really the perfect setup for the 25, not so much that its unusable without jail time and sensible enough that you can still use it normally without it being a complete pig.

My evo 7 had a 3082 with a 1.06 rear on it, it was a complete dog below 4 and didn't hit full boost until 5.5. Ridiculous turbo choice by the previous owner, hilarious and fun but ridiculous none the less.

Was much better when I changed it to a high flowed stock turbo, was all on at 3500 and made almost the same power.

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Mid size high flows are the way to go - improve a vehicle's power decently and leave it at that for reliability, tractability and usability.

When choosing my turbo I drove Hypergear's 340kw 33 that took until 4500rpm to actually get anywhere and then it wanted to eat a gutter. He asked me if I liked the power...I said no man, make me a turbo that comes on quickly instead of this, so he did. Haven't looked back - convinced my turbo is what these cars should have come with from factory!

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There is more to performance than dyno charts

I just said centrifugal chargers have their benefits which aren't immediately apparent.

Midrange kick is pointless if you are breaking traction there. Seperating your stuff from being tied to your exhaust manifold is also nice.

The smart answer if modding a RWD skyline for power is immediately LS convert it.

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26 minutes ago, Kinkstaah said:

There is more to performance than dyno charts

I just said centrifugal chargers have their benefits which aren't immediately apparent.

Midrange kick is pointless if you are breaking traction there. Seperating your stuff from being tied to your exhaust manifold is also nice.

The smart answer if modding a RWD skyline for power is immediately LS convert it.

Does it ever bother you that there are absolute f**kwits out there who wouldn't know a tenth of what you do about cars, driving 500kw GTRs up and down bypass that never miss a beat

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13 hours ago, Birds said:

E85

Should be first stop for any decent FI power gains. Improve performance absolutely everywhere!

But I wouldn't want a 250km range or cold start issues :P

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9 hours ago, Birds said:

Mid size high flows are the way to go - improve a vehicle's power decently and leave it at that for reliability, tractability and usability.

When choosing my turbo I drove Hypergear's 340kw 33 that took until 4500rpm to actually get anywhere and then it wanted to eat a gutter. He asked me if I liked the power...I said no man, make me a turbo that comes on quickly instead of this, so he did. Haven't looked back - convinced my turbo is what these cars should have come with from factory!

I must agree since i also have a highflow. aka - best skyline turbo ever, lol.

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7 minutes ago, UNR33L said:

But I wouldn't want a 250km range or cold start issues :P

300km thank you very much. No cold start issues here, even on freezing cold mornings. Getting the cold start crank and post crank settings right is the key to cold starts on e85. Flex fuel = best of both worlds.

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9 hours ago, Birds said:

Does it ever bother you that there are absolute f**kwits out there who wouldn't know a tenth of what you do about cars, driving 500kw GTRs up and down bypass that never miss a beat

I live right next to Glenny Kebabs and I hate this quite a bit at times :P (so many stanced golf R's holy shit)
I originally wanted to buy a Supra and could have, back in the day.
Would have done a lot more driving I assume, but wouldn't have (needed to) learn anything at all.
There is an element of fun to learning stuff, and there's always more stuff to break learn from

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Only problem with E85 is that it allows you to push so hard on the tune you will break the next thing up the chain as it will never ping.

This ain't so good if you have metal head gaskets, head studs, stronger pistons, rods, crank because when they aren't the weakest point you end up Gregging it™

98 isn't a bad idea as it stops you from going too insane, its a built in safety measure of sorts to make sure the rest of your setup is actually going well. E85 is like fuel-steroids. You can get the 'right' power on 98 in a Skyline at least to the point where everything else starts to become a limitation. You may not get forum and instagram #efame but you will be able to have fun with the vehicle and have a modicum of reliability and do more than hardpark it and fap over a dyno sheet if you go full retard with timing. (or full advance on timing, really)

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50 minutes ago, admS15 said:

300km thank you very much. No cold start issues here, even on freezing cold mornings. Getting the cold start crank and post crank settings right is the key to cold starts on e85. Flex fuel = best of both worlds.

Yeah flex seems like a good idea on paper, I'd want to have complete confidence in the tuner though! 

I think an STI would be more like 250km, those tanks are small af. Been looking into getting a Subi

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1 hour ago, Kinkstaah said:

This ain't so good if you have metal head gaskets, head studs, stronger pistons, rods, crank because when they aren't the weakest point you end up Gregging it™

Going to remain silent on the Gregging it™ front, as the last track day that we were at together didn't end well for me and you came out unscathed

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34 minutes ago, Odium said:

Going to remain silent on the Gregging it™ front, as the last track day that we were at together didn't end well for me and you came out unscathed

Whaaaa? What happen?

Everyone I was with that day was super happy they could lend the helmet you offered. You're the shining pinnacle of "Track day people are awesome!!" in their eyes. I did not know things went badly. Please tell me you didn't split a block due to aggressive timing due to magic E85 :P

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2 hours ago, UNR33L said:

Yeah flex seems like a good idea on paper, I'd want to have complete confidence in the tuner though! 

I think an STI would be more like 250km, those tanks are small af. Been looking into getting a Subi

For me, it's been just as good in practice as it has been on paper. As far as the tuner, you'd want to have confidence in a tuner doing anything to your car even if it's not e85 related. Since going e85, ive had no issues to speak of. I run a tank of 98 every 3-4 months, followed by a change of fuel filter. Has worked well so far. I also drive my car daily, so the fuel never gets enough time to absorb water and turn things to shit. Knock on wood that by saying that i wont be in the gregging it(tm) club.

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1 hour ago, Kinkstaah said:

Whaaaa? What happen?

Boost or Intake leak = overboosting turbo (correct psi by the time it got to the engine) = overheated turbo = warped / cracked exhaust manifold. My day was over by midday.

No worries about the helmet, never put blocks in place that stop people from getting out onto the track. We've got future track day participants to take care of!


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This was after a cooldown lap and sitting in the garage for a while until I noticed... pic was probably 5 minutes after it last saw boost.

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88e positive news from update = up it goes, tomorrow back down again 

Give it till the 22nd for results... At the moment its happy building solid base, im happy it hasnt gone spastic high and then everyone dumps within 24hours.
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