Vic Wasteland Thread - 15.0

[Count Grantleyish]

29 minutes ago, admS15 said:

Good good, I expect a full report once you have it back

Don't worry, there will be many-a reportings. 

[emts]

years back mate bought a LX torana with a a9x drop tank, plus lowered springs.

every bump or corner it would scrape.

 

thankfully he sold it before it finally wore through and caught fire

 

[Leroy Peterson]

Speaking to 2 tuners and 1 tuner in training, and they reckon cold start on E85 is pretty much non-existent on new tunes. Like people have figured out how to get around it...

[UNR33L]

1 hour ago, Leroy Peterson said:

Do like a mid-drive refuel. Requires support vehicle.

My old road bike had no gauge and was carby / fuel line with reserve switch, it would conk out of fuel while riding, reach down and switch to reserve - restart it off I go while still moving. 

Insert dealwithit.jpg to the cars next to me

Edited August 8, 2017 by UNR33L

[Count Grantleyish]

33 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

Speaking to 2 tuners and 1 tuner in training, and they reckon cold start on E85 is pretty much non-existent on new tunes. Like people have figured out how to get around it...

Of course it's non existent. I think it's for 98 (as I'm having it flex fuelled btw). 

Apparently a tuner who tuned Adaptronic Modular ECU's got it done, could be warmed with electric blanket before starting up  

[Count Grantleyish]

37 minutes ago, emts said:

years back mate bought a LX torana with a a9x drop tank, plus lowered springs.

every bump or corner it would scrape.

 

thankfully he sold it before it finally wore through and caught fire

 

Livin' dangerously, noice. 

[Kinkstaah]

You can cold start on E85 fine. You just have to define, fine. It was never really actually a problem to get going.

At its absolute worst, expect a stall when you first fire it up (near instantly), and then you're good to go for the rest of the day. It needs *some* heat to create vapor. 98 is absolutely always happier to start and run when your car has been running for 30 seconds, but any enthusiast doesn't really give a shit if they have to crank it 5 times instead of 3, or lets it stall once in the morning if it was 5C overnight.

[admS15]

28 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

Speaking to 2 tuners and 1 tuner in training, and they reckon cold start on E85 is pretty much non-existent on new tunes. Like people have figured out how to get around it...

I've got no issue with cold start on e85. On really really cold mornings if i try and drive off immediately which i regularly do (trying to leave home with minimal noise @6am) it may stall but instantly fires up again and off you go. If i sit there for a few seconds b4 releasing the clutch there is never an issue. The secret is all in the short and long post crank settings. E85 requires a lot more fuel at start up than 98. Edit, looks like Greg beat me to it.

[Kinkstaah]

It needs more fuel to crank over and 'start' but near immediately (at least on my car) it stalls if you give it any throttle. Looking at the AFR's in this state when you can, it isn't lean, nor too rich and stalling, but adding air makes the whole thing lean out and stall for that first ... ~5 seconds of running the motor.

Exact same scenario 20 seconds later results in everything being fine, and it'll happen overnight on first start, but it's never a problem say, leaving car outside in winter between 7am and 5pm etc. Only overnight :p.

Yes you can see why an OEM wouldn't want this and understand why Caltex would put 70% Ethanol in Eflex in winter, as this problem absolutely doesn't happen with 98.

[UNR33L]

Pretty sure bat/bird shit ruined some paint on my rear bar.. cant even polish it out. raging. 

Doesn't look terrible but still.

Edited August 8, 2017 by UNR33L

[Count Grantleyish]

43 minutes ago, UNR33L said:

Pretty sure bat/bird shit ruined some paint on my rear bar.. cant even polish it out. raging. 

Doesn't look terrible but still.

Time to call in sick for mental reasons. 

[Count Grantleyish]

1 hour ago, Kinkstaah said:

It needs more fuel to crank over and 'start' but near immediately (at least on my car) it stalls if you give it any throttle. Looking at the AFR's in this state when you can, it isn't lean, nor too rich and stalling, but adding air makes the whole thing lean out and stall for that first ... ~5 seconds of running the motor.

Exact same scenario 20 seconds later results in everything being fine, and it'll happen overnight on first start, but it's never a problem say, leaving car outside in winter between 7am and 5pm etc. Only overnight :p.

Yes you can see why an OEM wouldn't want this and understand why Caltex would put 70% Ethanol in Eflex in winter, as this problem absolutely doesn't happen with 98.

I was told to start it by turn the key towards start for a second then back to "ON" and then turn the key as you were.

Gonna try it when I get the thing back. 

[Leroy Peterson]

So anything changed on GTR setup or just E85?

[Count Grantleyish]

Started off as a simple e85 tune.

Ended up with ECU change with flex fuel sensor, MAC valve, new fuel pump and regulator as both were dying. 

I think that's it? 

[UNR33L]

ITT: People with e85 convince themselves it's as good as 98 on coldstart

Edited August 8, 2017 by UNR33L

[Leroy Peterson]

Started off as a simple e85 tune.

Ended up with ECU change with flex fuel sensor, MAC valve, new fuel pump and regulator as both were dying. 

I think that's it? 

Sounds good.

Before MAC valve was it racepace "natural boost control"?

What ECU before/after?

 

[Count Grantleyish]

38 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

Sounds good.

Before MAC valve was it racepace "natural boost control"?

What ECU before/after?

 

Yah and before ECU was good 'ol PFC, switched to Wolf V500 with 550 firmware only cos I picked it up for peanuts when I can run flex fuel, delete AFM and control boost. 

[Leroy Peterson]

Nice, sounds like going full standalone opened some doors.

Nekminnit Greg style tinkering

[Count Grantleyish]

That will happen I'm sure. 

[Leroy Peterson]

Where's your build thread? I need moar info