Vic Wasteland Thread - 15.0

[Birds]

That's pretty easily attributed to the fact that Murdoch is a Christian...

Yes...western media has an unfavorable depiction a lot of the time...but it's also attributable to the many Arab countries that have bastardised the religion into what most non-Muslims see it for these days; oppressive, discriminatory and authoritarian. When this is the only exposure people see, you can't expect them to view it favorably. It's not just a couple of people misrepresenting traditional teachings - there are entire countries doing it, basing their behaviour on it for thousands of years (religion is by and large archaic law). So do you take optimism to the issue and say look to those who don't do this stuff for your examples, ignoring the bad, or do you take an entire picture and include an overwhelming number of people who bring negativity to it? Could you wear a swastika in public these days and not be branded a nazi?

[Birds]

However - the religious texts themselves do discriminate with gender. There are rules that apply only to women, which is what Burqas within an Islamic context were born out of. As written in the Qur'an itself:

"O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their outergarments close around themselves; that is better that they will be recognized and not annoyed. And God is ever Forgiving, Gentle."

 Qur'an, Surah 33 (Al-Ahzab), Verse 59

and

"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"

 Qur'an, Surah 24 (An-Nur), Verse 31

Effectively, most parts of the male body can be viewed in public (men and women alike are expected to behave properly and with dignity), but most parts of the female body cannot.

[Mohsen]

in other words, dont dress like a ganga.

[Mohsen]

can literally close the lid on this can of worms but i cbf

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Quote of Quran shit about bitches....

Genesis 3:16

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1 Corinthians 11:3

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the son of rajab. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

1 Peter 3:1

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.

not sure I see your point

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

f**king LOL @ swear filter

[Birds]

in other words, dont dress like a ganga.

In other words, cover every part of your body even those not associated with sexuality

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

In other words, cover every part of your body even those not associated with sexuality

No part of Mohsen's body should ever be associate with sexuality

[Birds]

Genesis 3:16

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1 Corinthians 11:3

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the son of rajab. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

1 Peter 3:1

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.

not sure I see your point

Now which religion is being used these days to gender discriminate?

This is my point exactly - show me the western countries where Christianity is the dominant religion, that are still interpreting Christianity this way. For any one you can think of I can show you a dozen who are sill enforcing the notion of the Burqa/hijab and, in a broader sense, oppression of women.

Western interpretation of Christianity has evolved to accept gender equality and women's rights; Arab countries' and their interpretation of Islam have not.

To the point where Christianity these days is perceived as a more peaceful and democratic religion in the eyes of non-Muslims, even if the religious texts beg to differ. Refer to above example of swastika - it no longer has the meaning it once did. People bastardise it and when atrocities and oppression are associated with it, it's difficult for many to view it any other way.

[dezz]

Notorious B.I.G 3:16

f**k bitches get money

[Mohsen]

In other words, cover every part of your body even those not associated with sexuality

it wasnt very long ago when wearing a skirt above your knees was frowned upon in the western world.

do i need to do a barbarian and start throwing up pictures of pre-war syria? before the radicalised millitants f**ked the place up.

No part of Mohsen's body should ever be associate with sexuality

lies

[Birds]

FYI I believe everyone should walk around naked

The world is a better place when people see boobs

[Leroy Peterson]

This isnt the religion or YKWGMG thread, so gtfo.

[Mohsen]

lets start a war.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

FYI I believe everyone should walk around naked

The world is a better place when people see boobs

Except Mohsen's boobs

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

lets start a war.

A nuclear war

at the gay bar

[alr33x]

Notorious B.I.G 3:16

f**k bitches get money

Notorious B.I.G 3:17 mo money mo problems

[Birds]

Jay Z 3:18

99 problems but a bitch ain't one

[Mohsen]

Except Mohsen's boobs

ill breast feed you flamin mongrel.

A nuclear war

at the gay bar

what do you call a planet full of lebos?

planet of the apes

what do you call a group of lebos in a sauna?

gorillas in the mist

[UNR33L]

god dam i hate insurance renewal costs for teh car

racv pls $1250 with 2k excess :\ gotta make some calls i guess

Edited December 2, 2015 by UNR33L