Workshop Sticky Rant

[Duncan]

Interesting timing for this thread....for those that think maybe the rules are a bit paranoid or tight here.

On Friday Google was held responsible for defamation by the High Court because it provides links to defamatory material.

Extract from the SMH article covering it, and the full link: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-responsible-for-linking-to-defamatory-websites-australian-court-20151101-gko9l8.html

The South Australian Supreme Court this week found that Google is legally responsible when its search results link to defamatory content on the web.

In this long-running case, Dr Janice Duffy has been trying for more than six years to clear her name and remove links to defamatory material when people search for her using Google.

The main culprit is the US based website Ripoff Reports, where people have posted negative reviews of Dr Duffy. Under United States law, defamation is very hard to prove, and US websites are not liable for comments made by their users.

Since it was not possible to get harmful or abusive comments removed from the source, Dr Duffy instead asked Google to remove the links from its search results. Google removed some of these links, but only from its Australian domain (google.com.au), and it left many of them active.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Imagine trying to police Google, what a nightmare .

If Google and other similar companies were required to remove all of the possible litigious comments from web sites, it would be like a Cyber desert ?

As the US is VERY litigious, you would think no one would be game to write anything on Google US, well unless it was warm and cuddly , how boring . Freedom of speech, were does that start and finish ?

[XGTRX]

Where did you get the block from Pete?

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Where did you get the block from Pete?

The shop got it, it was supposed to have all of the right tests , X-Rayed, Acid wash, Sonic test , hot tank , so if it was done right you would expect a good block.

Anyway, it should only be a few days before the results are back and I will post them on the coolant thread

Off topic again, whoooops

[Duncan]

It surely is...this is not going to become the 3rd "Pete's saga" thread. Any further discussion on a specific issue can be posted elsewhere, please keep this on topic

[XGTRX]

I was trying to keep on topic as the question was really related to the fact that sometimes an engine builder often relies on many third parties to prep and check different components. Sometimes their assembly isn't to blame and all duty of care is taken.

Sometimes customers bring their own parts or have their own ideas on setups which the work shops have no real r&d on which complicates things further.

I, like a lot of people on here have a lot of exposure to these sort of scenarios for over 20 years and also remember the days when workshops had a setup with the r&d which just worked and you would go in and get it built. This held the workshops more accountable and they were happy to take the responsibility.

Tuning is another complex issue where people go for retunes to another workshop and then get low numbers and then advertise that the workshop are crap tuners when it obvious that the original tune was a marketing tune rather than a good one.

Or the scenario that someone comes for a dynotune and tells the workshop that he has a full forged engine and then the tuner pushes the engine at the request of the customer and the engine throws a rod, then the customer badmouths the workshop as I have seen an evo do with a supposably built engine but stock rods which went through the courts.

Not making excuses for a blatant poor workmanship, but there are more than a few things that should be considered when naming and shaming. That's why its dangerous for a forum to entertain such a thread IMHO.

Problem is for every truth there are many more untruths in this scene, and don't we all know it, and they eventually end up being workshop wars full of inaccuracies.

My 2 cents anyway.

[Duncan]

Cleaned up as per my last post other than the one clearly on topic comment. I'll warn/barn anyone who wants to continue off topic