V28VX37 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Hi guys, This is a really basic question but I can't find a clear answer: Is there a good way to change front brake pads without removing calipers? I read somewhere to turn old pad sideways and lever against the disc using it. I've tried this but it's still really hard going, the pistons are really tight. I have removed the brake fluid reservoir top too. Any tips on how to do this easier? Do I need a special tool? The car is an R34 GTT with the standard Sumitomo calipers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 quick search and i found this, not sure how well it would work. I've had my pads out about 4 times in the last 2 weeks (because of squealing issues) i can't see any other way except for taking the caliper off, or possibly using that tool if it works well. Also very interested if there is an easier way. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 quick search and i found this, not sure how well it would work. I've had my pads out about 4 times in the last 2 weeks (because of squealing issues) i can't see any other way except for taking the caliper off, or possibly using that tool if it works well. Also very interested if there is an easier way. Thanks mate! What's the best way to compress the pistons with the caliper off, without a tool like that? That tool does actually make sense if it's big enough - pull pads out on both sides and push opposing pistons in using the tool. The other typical issue is the other piston popping up when you compress the other on the same side, so ideally you'd have two of these tools... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
admS15 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks mate! What's the best way to compress the pistons with the caliper off, without a tool like that? That tool does actually make sense if it's big enough - pull pads out on both sides and push opposing pistons in using the tool. The other typical issue is the other piston popping up when you compress the other on the same side, so ideally you'd have two of these tools... G clamp. Leave 1 pad in and use clamp to compress 2 pistons, then put the pad on the 2 pistons in the other side of caliper and repeat. Done. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yep. I take the caliper off, hold the pad in place and use a G clamp. Have also used adjustable pliers in the past. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardsteppa Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Use the ring end of a spanner bigger than the ID of the piston, say 19mm? Lever it carefully against the rotor with the ring end resting inside the piston and will push it in without issue, i have found. Edited February 24, 2016 by hardsteppa Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Big screwdriver carefully used is fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks guys, looks like a combination of old pads, flat steel, spanners etc did it. Would have been quicker to just take the calipers off I have ordered the tool Trex posted above to see if it saves some hassle next time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7688587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Thats is seriously a waste of money, a screwdriver or spanner is all ive ever used on all cars 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Thats is seriously a waste of money, a screwdriver or spanner is all ive ever used on all cars Hehe yeah it's pretty basic ... however if it saves me an hour next time it'll be worth the $25 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Youll get better at it the more you do it, its a 30min job changing the front pads now for me, no special tools required... I find those types of tools just give chance to your caliper paint getting scratched and another tool to grab for the job... 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I reckon that tool will take longer than a screw driver Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Youll get better at it the more you do it, its a 30min job changing the front pads now for me, no special tools required... I find those types of tools just give chance to your caliper paint getting scratched and another tool to grab for the job... I reckon that tool will take longer than a screw driver Ok ppl with your fancy screwdrivers, do you just lever off the disc to push the pistons in? Or chuck something in between? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Depending on space. I usually lever off the pad or use the wooden end of my ball pein Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Use a lever under the old pad to push the pistons back. Pull out one pad so you have some room, it will allow the rotor to have small amount of movement as well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dermy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 https://www.gettoolsdirect.com.au/kincrome-4-in-1-brake-pad-spreader-k8165.html?gdftrk=gdfV26854_a_7c442_a_7c1200_a_7c93871&gclid=CKX8qaP2ossCFQx9vQodP0AHJA You could use this and not have to remove the caliper. But like everyones said i just lever with e screw driver Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/463186-changing-brake-pads-without-removing-calipers-how-to-compress-pistons/#findComment-7691766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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