Nismo R35?

[ElleAli76]

Anyone here bought the Nismo yet ?

[Anfanee]

$299K and apparently as a road car it's horrible. 

Yeah nah.

[LSX-438]

If you hadn’t ordered one-- ages ago—there’s no way you can get one now anyway.  

Nissan has been pretty selective on who gets them, and they have no shortage of buyers.

I agree you wouldn’t buy one as a road car..
 

[No Crust Racing]

Just incase anyone wanted one...

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4605255?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA

[LSX-438]

Nissan will be displeased.

I tested mine today for the first time at WP today

might have some video up later

[No Crust Racing]

Thoughts?

Bang for buck?

[LSX-438]

Do you know what positive confirmation bias is? 

Anyway the Track edition is $250k on road, Nismo is $330k

That's $80k for some (limited) extra power, carbon body bits, insane seats and different (IMHO awesome) interior.  Might sound a lot but then again resale on the nismo will likely be better when i sell.  I think it's more like $50k premium considering resale. 

i'm going to run this car in STOCKER classes this year...  I wanted the nismo as the ultimate factory GTR road car..  It would be great to reclaim some "stocker" CAMS track records again...  Btw my older (2009) GTR with bolt-ons, tune and slicks was much much much faster but that's besides the point, and modified classes.

FWIW the Nismo seems to have noticable turbo lag <4000rpm which you may have seen hinted at in some reviews.  Well i can confirm it's true -- will have to alter driving style accordingly.  The bigger turbos whilst yielding additional peak power for that 600hp headline number simply stifle lower RPM slingshot effect out of corners..  i was left waiting 1-2 seconds for power to come online.. a bit frustrating.  Maybe the bigger turbos will yeild more when we tune it eventually.

Anyway today in in the Nismo I ran 1:06.2 in traffic (with showroom tyres/brakes). However with AP racing j-hook rotors + agressive pads and robust fluid + R888R or Trofeo rubber on a clear track i think we can achive 1:03's- add a tune and slicks maybe i can beat my 1:00.8 GTR time from 2010.

The Nismo is an awesome car.  Is it 2x better than the original, no.  But there are diminishing returns when something is this good out ofthe box..  You pay an order of magnitude for a fraction improvement.

Anyway have you got one yet Dan?

Btw here is some video from today, shakedown on the factory tyres and brakes.  On saturday i will put some decent rotors/pads/fluid and r-spec tyres on, then  Sunday will be running at Eastern Creek if anyone wants to come for a chat.

 

[admS15]

Love the fact your actually using it for its intended purpose [emoji106]

[No Crust Racing]

Shame there's no telemetry on that. Didn't look "that" laggy and you'd think given the engine size that lag wouldn't be an issue up to 600 or so HP so I'm guessing those turbos have a lot more love to give. Do you think a basic ALS setting on your tune (when it happens) would alleviate the lag? 

No I won't be buying one, I live in a regional area and whilst we're quite comfortable, in terms of expendable income as a percentage of total coming in, we're still not in metro wages here so I think a Nismo is hard to justify especially a I wouldn't track it. I'll be test driving a 35 in the next month or 2 though, just to finally put that idea to bed - as a weekender that is, not a track car. The Silvia is too much fun to get rid of and GTRs tend to be less capable and more expensive to run as track cars than many other platforms (S chassis/Evo in particular).

As you've said, is it worth twice as much? I'm doubtful, but for someone who wants a turn key package to compete in showroom catagories etc, it makes a lot of sense. With some basic upgrades it will be a weapon also (and I don't think people should get on their high horse about hur ur it's a 350k car and still needs R comps and different rotors and pads hur dur). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LSX-438]

You’ll have to trust me seat of the pants-o-metre reveals lag.  It’s there..

makes sense given bigger turbos

The car is $299+ORC = $330k (the $350k price you see on carsales is attempted profiteering from an individual) I have heard of some asking even more.

I guess some collector might be interested who knows.
 
Re tyres/brakes - If you only do the odd track day you will not need to upgrade anything.  If you plan to track hard/regularly (as I am) then factor in rotors/pads/tyres—most guys running stocker GTR’s destroy the rotors and pads after 1-3 track days.  Ditto tyres.  Same goes for any car you plan to track.

This car will blow just about anything out of the water (assuming stock vs stock)—dunno where your more capable argument comes from I can’t think of a car that will pump out faster times off the factory floor (maybe a $500k Porsche?)-- depends on what your goals are I suppose.

You can go faster for much less, our race car does 55's around WP and cost 1/3 the price of the nismo.

[No Crust Racing]

Your last line was kind of my point. IF you want to build a car to go fast around a track, you'll do it much cheaper than the cost of the Nismo, if you want to buy a car that will be very capable straight out of the box with the vast majority of the hard work done, and don't mind paying for that then you have other options, including this. 

How were trans temps? Does it have a cooler/bigger trans pan etc? 

 

 

[LSX-438]

trans temps got to 125*c before i stopped, however it was a relatively cool day down there plus my first time in a GTR in 2-3 years (driving a bit soft lol)..  I suspect same cooler as stocker but i haven't checked..

[No Crust Racing]

So will need some attention there then. 

IS the limit of what temp you can run through it before it "must" be serviced any different?

 

 

[niZmO_Man]

17 minutes ago, LSX-438 said:

trans temps got to 125*c before i stopped, however it was a relatively cool day down there plus my first time in a GTR in 2-3 years (driving a bit soft lol)..  I suspect same cooler as stocker but i haven't checked..

Hopefully Nismo upgraded it, otherwise that'll be disappointing.

[LSX-438]

50 minutes ago, ActionDan said:

So will need some attention there then. 

IS the limit of what temp you can run through it before it "must" be serviced any different?

 

 

no idea.

[No Crust Racing]

Hahah, you're the best type of customer. 

If you work for/own a business that ever needs any form of IT&T help you should definitely contact me

Edited March 9, 2017 by ActionDan

[LSX-438]

I usually do my own servicing Dan (replace all fluids every 5000km)

Nissan wouldnt be able to keep up, plus they are bound to using consumer grade consumables (rotors/pads/fluids) are you catching on with the programme of heavy track use yet?

I have been in IT for 25years, don't think i will need you either..

[No Crust Racing]

This is like meeting an older version of myself. 
 

If my Sydney trips didn't always include work events at night I'd def come catch up for a beer