GOT SUM's RB34

[klutched]

On 8/15/2022 at 7:31 AM, ActionDan said:

Huge update VERY exciting, which TCU did you go with in the end? 

Sorry TCU - TurboLamik, the HTG ones are referred to as GCU.

TCU is here, need to spend some time and start working on her now

[No Crust Racing]

All good, people use the terms interchangeably. 

If you're willing to share, I'd be keen to understand the total cost of the swap when you know. 

[klutched]

On 8/16/2022 at 9:26 AM, ActionDan said:

All good, people use the terms interchangeably. 

If you're willing to share, I'd be keen to understand the total cost of the swap when you know. 

Hope my missus doesn't follow 🤣 So far just shy of 11k 🙈 for all parts required to bolt it in. Wiring harness will probably cost me $300 in materials, need some fittings hose and fire sleeve for trans cooler, sort out a new tailshaft as well probably another $1000 and then just mounting the shifter and finishing the drop box which wont cost much. Probably looking at 13k total

[No Crust Racing]

I'm missing some things then as I thought it was an under 10k job. Still MUCH cheaper and better outcome than a manual sequential IMO. 

The TCU is what, 2500 or so? When I looked at transmission they seemed to run about 4k (really depends on age/condition and what it came from, this is for ZF8HP70, 75 and above are much more expensive but I'm only 4cyl). 

Where's the rest go? 

Bellhousing adapter? 1-2k? 
Tailshaft 1k?
Wiring ???

I doubt she's reading this, thankfully neither does mine.

This is a safe space here

[klutched]

On 8/17/2022 at 7:37 AM, ActionDan said:

I'm missing some things then as I thought it was an under 10k job. Still MUCH cheaper and better outcome than a manual sequential IMO. 

The TCU is what, 2500 or so? When I looked at transmission they seemed to run about 4k (really depends on age/condition and what it came from, this is for ZF8HP70, 75 and above are much more expensive but I'm only 4cyl). 

Where's the rest go? 

Bellhousing adapter? 1-2k? 
Tailshaft 1k?
Wiring ???

I doubt she's reading this, thankfully neither does mine.

This is a safe space here

Bmw shifter $345.50
HPR $3504.33
Cooler $732.31
TCU $2430+$328.51
Gearbox $3650

Remember import duty and shit on everything from overseas. HPR stuff included adapter/flexplate bolts, output shaft, mekatronics board and cover, billet AN adapter, HPR crossmember and mount. I also got the billet sump thrown in as well. 

[No Crust Racing]

On 8/17/2022 at 9:22 AM, klutched said:

Bmw shifter $345.50
HPR $3504.33
Cooler $732.31
TCU $2430+$328.51
Gearbox $3650

Remember import duty and shit on everything from overseas. HPR stuff included adapter/flexplate bolts, output shaft, mekatronics board and cover, billet AN adapter, HPR crossmember and mount. I also got the billet sump thrown in as well. 

HPR is what/who? 

Also, FMD that adds up quick! 

[klutched]

On 8/17/2022 at 9:26 AM, ActionDan said:

HPR is what/who? 

Also, FMD that adds up quick! 

Go back a few pages and there's some pics of HPR stuff.

Yeah lol, I did go an expensive setrab cooler and spal fan/shroud combo

[No Crust Racing]

ok found it, for others it's here - 

Now I get ya. 

[DaymoR32]

On 8/17/2022 at 9:22 AM, klutched said:

Bmw shifter $345.50
HPR $3504.33
Cooler $732.31
TCU $2430+$328.51
Gearbox $3650

Remember import duty and shit on everything from overseas. HPR stuff included adapter/flexplate bolts, output shaft, mekatronics board and cover, billet AN adapter, HPR crossmember and mount. I also got the billet sump thrown in as well. 

thats really not a bad price at all, especially as you can spread the purchasing costs over a few items (rather than a big lump sum cost)

[klutched]

Picked the box up yesterday arvo and had a quick look. The 8hp75 is different to the 70 in a few ways (that matter). Box is about 20mm longer, rear mount is different pattern, and the oil cooler adapter is also different. Will be working with HPR to try and fix these for the R33 kit and I assume for other 75 kits as well. 

Will hopefully get stuck into it this weekend, pull the pan off and make sure the new billet one fits and also pull the mekatronics out to modify for TCU.

[Shoota_77]

On 24/8/2022 at 5:51 PM, klutched said:

Picked the box up yesterday arvo and had a quick look. The 8hp75 is different to the 70 in a few ways (that matter). Box is about 20mm longer, rear mount is different pattern, and the oil cooler adapter is also different. Will be working with HPR to try and fix these for the R33 kit and I assume for other 75 kits as well. 

Will hopefully get stuck into it this weekend, pull the pan off and make sure the new billet one fits and also pull the mekatronics out to modify for TCU.

What car is that version of the box in?  Is it only higher performance cars that run that version?

[No Crust Racing]

On 8/24/2022 at 5:51 PM, klutched said:

Picked the box up yesterday arvo and had a quick look. The 8hp75 is different to the 70 in a few ways (that matter). Box is about 20mm longer, rear mount is different pattern, and the oil cooler adapter is also different. Will be working with HPR to try and fix these for the R33 kit and I assume for other 75 kits as well. 

Will hopefully get stuck into it this weekend, pull the pan off and make sure the new billet one fits and also pull the mekatronics out to modify for TCU.

Really valuable info as I'd be eyeing 75s as well. 

[Shoota_77]

Found this on trusty ole Wikipedia-

8HP70

BMW 7 Series (F01/F02), BMW X5 50i (E70), BMW 5 series (F10/11), BMW 3 Series (F30) 330d and 335d, Chrysler 300 V8 (2015-), Dodge Durango V8, Iveco Daily, Jaguar F-Type (V6 and V8), Jaguar XE 35t, Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7L 8-cyl Engine Code [T] EZH (2014 -), Jeep Grand Cherokee 6.4L 8-cyl Engine Code [J] ESG (2014 -), Jeep Grand Cherokee V8, Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel (2014-2016), Ram 1500 V6, V8, & diesel, Range Rover Sport (2012), Rolls-Royce Phantom, Maserati Quattroporte (2013–), Dodge Charger V8 (2015-), Volkswagen Amarok V6 TDI 550, Dodge Challenger V8 (2015-), Aston Martin Vanquish (2015), Aston Martin Rapide S (2015),^[18] Alpina B3 (F30/31), Alpina B4 (F32/33), Great Wall Haval H9, VW Crafter (longitudinal engine), MAN TGE (longitudinal engine)

 

8HP75 (2nd Generation)

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio, Aston Martin DB11, Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2019), Alpina B5 (G30/31), BMW 5 series (G30/G31/F90), BMW X5 M (F85), BMW X6 M (F86), BMW 7 Series (G11/12),^[19] BMW X5 (F15),^[20] BMW X3 30D (G01), RAM 1500 (2019-), RAM 2500 (2019-), Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel (2017-), Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel (2020-), Jeep Gladiator Ecodiesel (2021-), Jeep Wrangler 392 (2021-)

 

The 8HP70 DEFINITELY makes it a lot more attainable in terms of the vehicles it's in.  A lot more common models and a bit older so more likely  to be written off and sitting at a wreckers!

 

[klutched]

On 8/25/2022 at 8:38 AM, Shoota_77 said:

Found this on trusty ole Wikipedia-

8HP70

BMW 7 Series (F01/F02), BMW X5 50i (E70), BMW 5 series (F10/11), BMW 3 Series (F30) 330d and 335d, Chrysler 300 V8 (2015-), Dodge Durango V8, Iveco Daily, Jaguar F-Type (V6 and V8), Jaguar XE 35t, Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7L 8-cyl Engine Code [T] EZH (2014 -), Jeep Grand Cherokee 6.4L 8-cyl Engine Code [J] ESG (2014 -), Jeep Grand Cherokee V8, Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel (2014-2016), Ram 1500 V6, V8, & diesel, Range Rover Sport (2012), Rolls-Royce Phantom, Maserati Quattroporte (2013–), Dodge Charger V8 (2015-), Volkswagen Amarok V6 TDI 550, Dodge Challenger V8 (2015-), Aston Martin Vanquish (2015), Aston Martin Rapide S (2015),^[18] Alpina B3 (F30/31), Alpina B4 (F32/33), Great Wall Haval H9, VW Crafter (longitudinal engine), MAN TGE (longitudinal engine)

 

8HP75 (2nd Generation)

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio, Aston Martin DB11, Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2019), Alpina B5 (G30/31), BMW 5 series (G30/G31/F90), BMW X5 M (F85), BMW X6 M (F86), BMW 7 Series (G11/12),^[19] BMW X5 (F15),^[20] BMW X3 30D (G01), RAM 1500 (2019-), RAM 2500 (2019-), Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel (2017-), Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel (2020-), Jeep Gladiator Ecodiesel (2021-), Jeep Wrangler 392 (2021-)

 

The 8HP70 DEFINITELY makes it a lot more attainable in terms of the vehicles it's in.  A lot more common models and a bit older so more likely  to be written off and sitting at a wreckers!

 

Regarding 70 vs 75 availability, the 70's aren't really available in a BMW RWD config over here and for 75's they are only out of a couple of newer model bmw's. If youre going AWD they are everywhere and very cheap. Would probably be worth developing a RWD conversion for one of those boxes purely for ease of finding a new one if you were to blow it up and possibly still cheaper depending on how much the conversion would cost.

[klutched]

Did a little bit of work this arvo. Got the TCU mounted up. Only place I could put it as it's pretty big. 

Need to start putting the interior back together and set everything in place so I can find the best place to punch through the tunnel with the harness. 

Pulled the box apart as well, valvebody out. Need to pull the mekatronics out and mod it for the TCU.

[klutched]

Pulled the mecatronics apart and opened it up to reveal the stock TCU. Cut all the wires off and got the PCB in and soldered up. Failed the first attempted and dragged some solder across a couple of pads. Had to desolder it all and mess around as I had one pad pulling to ground as well. Eventually got there in the end. 

Mate has printed the new designed mount up to test the bolt pattern. Will try mount it up tomorrow and see how it goes and make necessary mods if needed then will print out a proper bracket to test fit up once ive got the block and box in.

[No Crust Racing]

PCB solder job looks plenty good, well done

[klutched]

Not much happening lately on the old girl, looking a bit sad sitting in the shed covered in dust. Need to push her out and give her a bit of love when I've got some time. 

I did install the output shaft, and got final design for the trans mount. Have heard back from HPR that they are finished being machined and should be sent out sometime early this month! 

Still haven't got head or bottom end back yet either... should hopefully be sometime this month as well. 

Apart from that I've been flat out between work and renos. Built a nice little cupboard, finished our garage which is now the laundry as well. We are extending our kitchen into where the laundry used to be. Cabinetry is due end of this month, so hopefully get all that done and tiled throughout before number 2 baby comes at the end of Feb! Missus decided she wanted a puppy, because a toddler and new born won't be hard enough 🤣🤣 

Gonna turn into @Dose Pipe Sutututu thread of home renos soon 🤣

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Kitchen coming together well!

 

[klutched]

Finally some progress on the old girl! New trans mount came today. Got the block sat in and dummy fitted it all up together. Fit up perfectly! Not sure if you would need to do any tunnel mods on a factory tunnel but i did some light molesting to fit the glide in. Can now start wiring and plumbing it all up when I get some time. 

Also ordered a whiteline sway bar kit while theyre on sale. Should have that this week and pop them in as well.