Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

2JZ Supra Time. Input and Suggestions Please!

G'day Team,

Yep, I would like to buy a 2JZ Supra within the next 12 - 15 weeks.

Yes, seriously.

No, I won't be selling my E85 R33 GT-R.

I could search extensively, but I'm on here all the time, and hell, why not start a thread.

Question.... What model should I buy? or perhaps What would YOU buy?

I want a long list of tasteful modifications. Must look stockish, but either go hard (400kw+) or have all the hard bits done and ready for Haltech and E85. Pref NSW rego. Will buy straight from Japan if needed.

Business is good, and I have a 30K budget, but could go 35K if it was worth it as I know that spending an extra 5K will happen in no time as soon as I add E85... and I will.

It will be an Investment that does mad skids.

Yes, it will be tracked once every 3 months... TBH I'm pretty worries about blowing the RB26 when the 'Redmist' comes down.

Back story is my 33GTR is my 3rd Skyrine, and I want some 2JZ before they are worth a billionty dollars.

Please give feedback Ya Mad Bastards! What looks best and is BEST BANG FOR BUCK!!

Cheers,

James

 

 

Pic for Fap. Makes my GTR look pretty lame TBH.

 

15741262_1248357021876746_6881638601143127199_n - Copy.jpg

Post 94, but pre 97

you want the big brakes, but not the vvti motor.

 

I looked for ages and all the local ones had too many fast and the furious mods, or were thrashed to within an inch of their lives

So find a stock one, throw the factoy turbos in the bin where they belong, add a decent single turbo, (EFR8374 would be my choice) and a set of drop in cams. an 4" exhaust (nothing jap branded is any good!!!)

10" wide wheels front and rear and some decent suspension and you'll have a reliable car that can be driven to and from the track.

  • Like 1

You dont want VVTi!

Smaller ports and toothpick esque con-rods

Edit - plus nothing from the earlier motor fits the vvti head, so exhaust manifolds, cams, inake manifolds etc 

from memory 30k Will get you quite a nice one

 

See here -

 

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Toyota-Supra-1993/SSE-AD-4446612/?Cr=5

 

This one looks like it is sold but.....

93 will have the small brakes, but not hard to upgrade, but at 26k it gives you a bigger budget for parts

  • Like 1

Thanks Zebra. TBH I would like something more heavily modified and ready to go.

From experience, I know how much time and money it takes / costs to get something right, hence the slightly higher budget.

What I really want is someones baby, who has built it and life circumstances have changed and now has to move on.

I'm still Salty about that beautiful one (silver with bay done) which was sold in the ACT about 18months ago. Can't remember the rego, but there was a pic of it in-front of Waters Edge / the Lake / the flags in Canberra. That was super.

I would prefer a big single already done, injectors, pump, diff etc. My understanding is the 2JZ is pretty unbreakable? so that is not a huge issue, but if done, it's a bonus.

Must also be classy, and not FandF as you mentioned.

What was the story with you giving up on them?

Didn't realise the VVTI's were weaker. I've been keeping an eye out for the VVTI model for a bit now (trying to live out my Gran Turismo youth and have a GTR, GTO & Supra).
I'll start looking for a 95ish model now I guess. Realise this is the wrong forum to ask this que, but is there a big difference in driviability between a VVTI model and the earlier ones?

See here

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?522377-FAQ-VVTi-2JZGTE-Facts-differences-and-conversion-information

 

Apparently I had a senior moment and must have been thinking the Toyota V8s (xUZ) series and not the JZ

So pretty much ignore the stuff above about the VVTi 2JZ being weaker.

I wouldn't rush into buying one as people think they're rarer than a unicorn.

The Australian forums died in the arse about 2-3 years ago. There is an Australian Supra buy and sell group on Facebook that you'll see some decent options. In saying that people are still delusional with the current prices.

I've had people message me for 3 times what i sold mine for a couple years ago. I'm also looking to buy another one, but honestly I think its cheaper to buy a roller and rebuild it. 

There are still a few oldies floating around that can give some details on a few cars. For example dont touch the purple t04z single thats on the market. its a mashed up lemon hence the 5th owner in 18 months is trying to palm it off.

After owning both the supra and GTR, I can say there is something about the big single supra that never lets go!

Take your time to look at whats out there. Go test drive them and inspect the cars to make sure your getting what your paying for. 

  • Like 1

Just a few suggestions/comments regarding the 2JZ venture. Let me know if you need any more information.

1. You would be better off buying a late model NON VVTi model. VVTi complicates modifications and tuning a bit more so I wouldn't suggest buying one unless you absolutely find one that you are keen on.

2. Most people put on trash body kits and such (F&F style) and it's becoming hard to find a stock looking supra which will be under $30k that has single turbo modifications. You may find one which is stock (including visuals) for around 25-30k.

3. Easy to modify and you can just slap on a big turbo, injectors, ecu, e85, exhaust, etc and keep it simple. You don't really need cams or anything fancy and the block is pretty much bullet proof so you won't need a built motor when you are only chasing 400kw.

4. Your budget is okay but might need to be extended a bit depending on the condition supra you want and your time frame taken into account. People are starting to hold onto them more and the ones for sale are either lemons, look molested or want something ridiculous for their condition.

Best of luck with your search! Especially with your timeline of 3-4 months. Hope you can find something nice and clean with tasteful modifications.

  • Like 2
15 hours ago, natett said:

I wouldn't rush into buying one as people think they're rarer than a unicorn.

The Australian forums died in the arse about 2-3 years ago. There is an Australian Supra buy and sell group on Facebook that you'll see some decent options. In saying that people are still delusional with the current prices.

I've had people message me for 3 times what i sold mine for a couple years ago. I'm also looking to buy another one, but honestly I think its cheaper to buy a roller and rebuild it. 

There are still a few oldies floating around that can give some details on a few cars. For example dont touch the purple t04z single thats on the market. its a mashed up lemon hence the 5th owner in 18 months is trying to palm it off.

After owning both the supra and GTR, I can say there is something about the big single supra that never lets go!

Take your time to look at whats out there. Go test drive them and inspect the cars to make sure your getting what your paying for. 

 

 

Thankyou Nate. Your one was exactly what I am chasing. If it were for sale now, It would be in my Shed. Super Clean.

9 hours ago, breaker1845 said:

Just a few suggestions/comments regarding the 2JZ venture. Let me know if you need any more information.

1. You would be better off buying a late model NON VVTi model. VVTi complicates modifications and tuning a bit more so I wouldn't suggest buying one unless you absolutely find one that you are keen on.

2. Most people put on trash body kits and such (F&F style) and it's becoming hard to find a stock looking supra which will be under $30k that has single turbo modifications. You may find one which is stock (including visuals) for around 25-30k.

3. Easy to modify and you can just slap on a big turbo, injectors, ecu, e85, exhaust, etc and keep it simple. You don't really need cams or anything fancy and the block is pretty much bullet proof so you won't need a built motor when you are only chasing 400kw.

4. Your budget is okay but might need to be extended a bit depending on the condition supra you want and your time frame taken into account. People are starting to hold onto them more and the ones for sale are either lemons, look molested or want something ridiculous for their condition.

Best of luck with your search! Especially with your timeline of 3-4 months. Hope you can find something nice and clean with tasteful modifications.

 

 

Thanks for the input Breaker. Yes, all the ones I see are poorly modified or waaay overpriced.

  • 2 weeks later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Have you not seen geospy.ai? It can now give GPS co ords to within a metre from a photo, even if it's a random photo you take inside. Supposedly at the moment only the government/law enforcement has access to that... Supposedly...
    • I've got the rear ones, they're certainly beefy. I need to take them to my driveshaft guru to check over, he's very fussy about the quality of components so I'll let you know if they are made of cheese by a blind man.   Are you in Australia? A mate just had a set of EN26 shafts made for his K20 Lotus by our fabricator which were quite cheap (compared to Driveshaft Shop) so if you can procure the CV's and draw what you need he'd make them for ~$800 for the pair.
    • Had I known the diff between R32 and R33 suspension I would have R33 suspension. That ship has sailed so I'm doing my best to replicate a drop spindle without spending $4k on a Billet one.
    • OEM suspension starts to bind as soon as the car gets away from stock height. I locked in the caster and camber before cutting off the kingpin. I then let the upright down in a natural (unbound) state before re-attaching it. Now it moves freely in bump and droop relative to the new ride height. My plan is to add GKTech arms before the car is finished so I can dial camber and caster further. It will be fine. This isn't rocket science. Caster looks good, camber is good, upper arm doesn't cause crazy gain and it is now closer to the stock angle and bump steer checks out. Send it.
    • Pay careful attention to the kinematics of that upper arm. The bloody things don't work properly even on a normal stock height R32. Nissan really screwed the pooch on that one. The fixes have included changing the hole locations on the bracket to change the angle of the inner pivot (which was fairly successful but usually makes it impossible to install or remove the arm without unbolting the bracket from the tower, which sucks) and various swivelling upper arm designs. ALL the swivelling upper arm designs that look like a capital I (with serifs) suck. All of them. Some of them are in fact terribly unsafe. Even the best one of them (the old UAS design) shat itself in short order on my car. The only upper arm that works as advertised and is pretty safe is the GKTech one. But it is high maintenance on a street car. I'm guessing that a 600HP car as (stupidly, IMO) low as you are going is not going to be a regular driver. So the maintenance issues on suspension parts are probably not going to be a problem. But you really must make sure that however your fairly drastically modded suspension ends up, that the upper arms swing through an arc that wants to keep the inner and outer bolts parallel. If the outer end travels through an arc that makes that end's bolt want to skew away from parallel with the inner bolt, you will build up enormous binding and compressing forces in the bushes, chew them out and hate life. The suspension compliance can actually be dominated by the bush binding, not the spring rate! It may be the case that even something like the GKTech arm won't work if your suspension kinematics become too weird, courtesy of all the cut and shut going on. Although you at least say there's no binding now, so maybe you're OK. Seeing as you're in the build phase, you could consider using R33/4 type upper arms (either that actual arm, OEM or aftermarket) or any similar wishbone designed to suit your available space, so alleviate the silliness of the R32 design. Then you can locate your inner pivots to provide the correct kinematics (camber gain on compression, etc).
×
×
  • Create New...