Manually Power up R33 electric windows?

[mercyseat]

Can you manually wind up windows on

an R33 if you have no power?

No Headlight Loom or Fuse box in engine bay available.

Door Skins are removed so easy access.

Just need to know OR be shown how to either power them up manually with battery OR wind up manually without power.

Or is it best to just get an auto electrician in?

[Steve85]

If you take the door apart, you might be able to apply voltage to the window motor.

I don't actually know how this is done, you would need to be sure of the voltage and current limits, but once you had this info, you could isolate the circuit and power it up.

Thus giving you ability to wind your windows up without powering up the whole car. It's what I would be looking to do in this instance.

[oweban]

Yep, I just ran 12v to a motor when my controls were out to do it one way, then reversed to do it the other. Straight from battery is fine.

[mercyseat]

Do you have a photo to show where to hook up the wiring to?
Positive / Negative?
I knew I had to get manual power to the motor with a battery, just don't know wiring part.
Thanks for the help so far

[oweban]

Sorry, no photos - but those green and blue wires that are in the plug attached to the door there - disconnect plug, and put voltage to the two wires going "into" the door. Will save and edit your photo, on my phone ATM.

[oweban]

These two can't remember which way will make it go up and which will make it go down, but just tap 12v across those two after disconnecting plug, and then swap pos and neg to see which way you want.

[mercyseat]

Perfect. Rang my mechanic and said the same unfortunately i have two flat car batteries so only half done. Off to buy a battery charger!
Thanks guys! Will try to post a video of it once done .
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[mercyseat]

DONE!
Bought a new car battery as I needed one anyway for my other car once it is fixed.
Built myself some cables using 3mm wire with terminal clips at one end and switch clips at other end so you can easily plug in/out of the switch.


Then plugged the switches in depending on which way you want the windows to go up/down.



Then place the negative on the battery first and as soon as you touch the positive terminal your all systems go!

Please note this was all done on a car that has no loom or power or fuse box, hence only fix available.
Not bad for a girl [emoji846].

[oweban]

Glad to hear it worked - was about 8 years ago I did that fix to mine. (Resolved with parts now)

[Steve85]

Good one. Glad you got that sorted out. Bonus points for showing how its done!

[Lisag03]

Glad to hear it worked - was about 8 years ago I did that fix to mine. (Resolved with parts now)

I am having this problem with my r33 atm and we have rain forcast for tomorrow. What parts need to be replaced? My partner has a 94 model but atm is pulled apart for a re spray atm. Would i be able to use something of his untill i get the parts? Thank you in advance

[oweban]

First thing to test would be the above - check if putting 12v across the motor makes it move, if so, then motor is fine (which is great because getting it out and a new one in is a pain in the arse).

If that works, then look into checking the relay, it's the thing in this pic:

http://i.imgur.com/GlGcsTB.jpg

Pretty common for them to go out.

If still not, check the switch block itself, like the switches where you put the window up and down.

If it's the passenger window, note that everything needs to be plugged in on the drivers side (relay etc) for it to work.

[mercyseat]

I was lucky was just that the windows were just wound down before the power was pulled. Everything in tact nothing removed.
Just a matter of removing door skins, finding the window motor connection un clicking it and follow above instructions.
Before that i just had to tape up the windows, tarp over top of car then waterproof heavy duty car cover over top. And tape the tarp down.
Car battery, 3mm wire, clips, small battery terminal clips.

[Lisag03]

First thing to test would be the above - check if putting 12v across the motor makes it move, if so, then motor is fine (which is great because getting it out and a new one in is a pain in the arse).

If that works, then look into checking the relay, it's the thing in this pic:

http://i.imgur.com/GlGcsTB.jpg

Pretty common for them to go out.

If still not, check the switch block itself, like the switches where you put the window up and down.

If it's the passenger window, note that everything needs to be plugged in on the drivers side (relay etc) for it to work.

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It is my driver door. I have a 93 and my partner has a 94 model, his windows work fine, So i tried his switch(nope got nothing) tried the thing in the picture(nope got nothing). I can hear a clicking noisw when i lift the window switch up or push the window switch down.

I just had a look and the thing that u xonnected the battery to (the wiring clip) mine has some sought of grey paste looking substance. Ill get a pic and upload it tomorrow.

But thank you guys so much.

[oweban]

Okay clicking means your relay is fine - sounds like the motor might be toast. One of the first things I did to my 33 (back in 2006) was replace the window motor; the switch for "down" was slightly floppy, so it was stuck on, and burned out the motor.

Don't be afraid to wipe that grease off; it'd be anti-corrosion stuff, but I haven't had any on mine since I did the motor and it's fine.

IIRC the window motors themselves aren't too expensive; it's the cost of your sanity as you try to install it - though your hands are probably smaller than mine

[Lisag03]

Okay clicking means your relay is fine - sounds like the motor might be toast. One of the first things I did to my 33 (back in 2006) was replace the window motor; the switch for "down" was slightly floppy, so it was stuck on, and burned out the motor.

Don't be afraid to wipe that grease off; it'd be anti-corrosion stuff, but I haven't had any on mine since I did the motor and it's fine.

IIRC the window motors themselves aren't too expensive; it's the cost of your sanity as you try to install it - though your hands are probably smaller than mine [emoji4]

Oh i have more than enough cuts and bruises and lost tools from throwing them. Thnak you