No Crust Racing Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Haltech Anti-Lag Launch and Rally A few queries regarding both, but keep in mind this is just for shits and giggles, will not be used in compeition etc is simply just for laughs/noise. Platinum pro on an 34R with -9s etc. How harsh is the launch function if I'm only using it for a few seconds here and there, say when pulling up at a mates place to be a goose and not actually launching. Is it less harsh if dropping the rpm or TPS limits or using fuel or ignition cut or is it just all having the same negative impact on gaskets, manifolds, and turbos/temp? Regarding the Rally setting, similar questions is there a "nicer" value for fuel enrichment and timing retard? As this is not needed for genuine performance and only for driving enjoyment/noise/giggles. Does it still work without a throttle kicker/manually adjusted throttle plate to allow for extra air coming in? Given the time between WOT gear changes (say on an on ramp between 2nd and 3rd, is there going to be an impact anyway? Appreciate the input from people who have actively played with both settings. Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
admS15 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Have used the launch function on my adaptronic probably about 30 times, no damage that I know of has occurred, yet (stock rb25 around 300rwkw). If used sparingly with cool downs before attempts to launch the risks are reduced. Cant comment on the settings for haltech or the rally style anti lag. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Had a play with this last night, was funny. Anti Lag Launch is hilarious (didn't actually launch just got it on the 2 step and let it bang bang and spool for giggles). Anti Lag Rally is interesting, you need to drive a certain way to make use of it, but is hilarious to have a WOT blast up towards a corner, lift off, go to shift down and have it bang bang between the shifts and trailing throttle, many giggles had. You need to think about it in advance though as the first pull arms it then you have to dip below a threshold for it to fire, I can see this working well on the track. I didn't notice anything concerning about EGTs during this testing, but I wasn't using it heavily. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 depends how much retard you're running vs. time Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Oddly, launch doesnt let you set that. Only rally does.Rally was set at 15% and 27 degrees. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You never go full retard 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 So how much is "too" much and what's safer? Less retard and less fuel enrichment? OR more retard and less enrichment? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 measure EGT, more retard = more boost = more EGT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Cheers. Hoping to go for a cruise tomorrow, will keep an eye on it and take laptop with me. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTAN Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Launch that's reliant on ignition retard and extra fuel is much easier on the oil pump drive. 2 step (ignition cut limiter) for launch will break your oil pump drive gear eventually.If you want it to sound tough (not sure if the ecu has it) you can setup cyclic idle, though it's much easier with an electronic throttle as it requires the throttle to be permanently partiality open, will sound like the car has a cammed v8 at idle and helps a lot with cooling the exhaust/turbos down when using antilag. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Yeah it has rotational idle, which as you said requires a throttle adjustment to work. It's getting cammed soon anyway so will have a nicer idle as a result. Oddly I can select what type of anti lag i want for the rally setting (fuel or ignition, i have ignition set) but not for the launch setting. You'd have to think it's an ignition cut also though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale FZ1 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Less interested in the cool bang bang. What happens when you nail the throttle after that? 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 No idea, too scared of breaking getrag to find out.Let me know when you try it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Launch is awesome rally you have to be full retard to use on a a road car.... those people put videos of YouTube 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Lol I'm off for a cruise through the hills tomorrow morning, was going to leave it on for giggles. Not hard to switch off if needed.See what happens. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You know the gearbox can handle much more power than you have now.... 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I do indeed Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Only got one clip of anti lag and no flames in this one, boys told me they're very obvious when it does it though, will get a night clip for extra rice points. ALS rally would work well on the track, for cruising at 7/10ths it's actually more intrusive as it cuts your ability to add your own throttle while it's firing. I played with the duration and engagement points and got it running well, but is most effective when pushing harder. Exhaust temps reached 740 peak during the most spirited part of the drive. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmair Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 if you have studs n metal gasket it is fairly safe i launch on 2 step every now and then 15 psi off the line smokes all four in first but bogs into second if you dont stay on it in 1st gear box hates 2 step Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I wasn't actually launching, just rerevving it up for the noise and a laugh. Having another conversation at the moment which suggests that the real potential issue is the oil pump.So while this was fun, I'm not looking for a rebuild any time soon Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/469536-haltech-anti-lag-launch-and-rally/#findComment-7816921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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