S14-15 vs Evo 7-9 Track Car

[No Crust Racing]

4B vs 4G and manual vs SST, what's the consensus? IS the newer gear better but more expensive or is it just more expensive with no performance benefit? 

 

 

[Hadouken]

Sst overheats and breaks
They have bad fuel surge issues also.
Its Heavier.
Still make good power.

[No Crust Racing]

So no advantages over IX then.

[Hadouken]

You're going to have to spend a lot of money to get a evo to 350kw and be a reliable track car.

They are much better around 250kw in stock trim

[No Crust Racing]

Is that really enough grunt to be decently competitive though.

 

I know they use it well but you see most developed cars pushing high 200s on 98 at least.

 

I wouldn't have thought that would be a stretch?

[Hadouken]

I run low boost 230kw and continually place in the top 10 of my Interclub supersprint which consists of 60-80 cars.
And I'm not even using real r comps.

You say competitive but what are you going to compete in?
Wtac? Then yes. You're going to need at least 400kw

[No Crust Racing]

Again, awesome feedback. This is the stuff I need to know.

Yeah clublevel sprints.

[No Crust Racing]

What becomes a reliability issue at higher power levels?

[Hadouken]

Box
Transfercase
Block

You'll have to build all 3.

Then you'll need a bigger front mount and bigger oil cooler.

[No Crust Racing]

Which is why ideally I'd like a car with that done.

Worth spending a bit extra for something a little more complete.

Easy enough to turn power down.

[Skepticism]

I never wound up tracking my old 180sx, but my current evo 6 absolutely caned it in terms of grip, even on comfort spec bilsteins, OEM height and street alignment, nearly same tyre as well (re002/re003). I subsequently got MCA purples and RS3s, went to Wakefield for the first time ever (outside of PC sims I guess) and still shat out some fast times, despite decidedly lacklustre driving abilities. People say evos are basically cheating and I can see why... mostly jealousy. But at the same time they're not wrong.

HOWEVER, that being said, there's more to life than lap times. And there's always some arsehole at the track who's faster than you. The two cars are apples and oranges. The S chassis was the entry level option from Nissan and it admittedly lacks performance - but despite being the cut-price option it's still a pure sports car and drives as such. The Evo 4-6 was significantly more expensive in its day, but it's a basic bitch sedan turned rally homologation special, with a whole heap of compromise in terms of form (I think?), but greatly enhanced function -  vastly better engine response and head flow, faster steering rack, huge brakes and oil cooler from factory... and yet in some respects it still feels like I'm driving a riced out sedan. That feeling fades completely once I hit some curves at speed, because the handling really is sublime, the car rotates so easily and there's grip for days coming out of corners.

If you just want lap times for the lowest $ the choice is obvious tho

Edited August 25, 2017 by Skepticism