Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hello and thanks for reading I've been searching the forums for any info and cant find really anything saying I will have compression issues so here's the question.  I have an rb25 block that is already built im talking ACL bearings CP pistons (8.5:1) Manly rods ARP head/crank studs and all.   Im looking at powering a 9180 borgwarner efr turbo running E85 should be able to make 600-700 hp with room to grow.  Originally was just going to build an rb25 head but I'm toying with the idea of using an rb26 head instead since it already has solid lifters and it has more cam options so i was wondering if I might have low compression because from what i understand the rb26 head has a slightly larger combustion chamber 64.5cc vs 62.5 in the rb25. (https://www.tomeiusa.com/tool/stock_engine_data.html)

Does anyone have any experience  with a swap like this.  And I know i should just buy a rb26 block but im located in the states and rb's are much harder to get a hold of here plus I've already got a built block.   Thanks in advance for any help. I've also got a solid rb26 hhead and all the components sourced and ready to purchase this little inquiry is all thats holding me up.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/473605-rb26-head-on-rb25-block/
Share on other sites

If you already have a built Rb25 bottom end, try and get an RB25det Neo head.
A lot cheaper and it has solid lifters
I currently run an RB26 Tomei Type B cams in my 25 neo head at the moment, 260/260 In/Ex  9.15mm Lift
I had to remove the VCT for this to work and use adjustable cam gears

Anything bigger than 9.5mm lift and you'll need to machine the head.


I've never heard of putting a 26 head on a 25 bottom end

Neo head chamber is ~10cc smaller than normal 25.  Will lead to V.LARGE.COMPRESSION on pistons suited to vanilla head.

26 head will sit on 25 block, because the bore is the same.  26 head bolts are larger.  You will need to drill out the block and retap for larger bolts.  Slightly lower compression can be compensated for with a little less head gasket thickness, a little material skimmed off the head or with more boost.  I am sure, though, that there are likely to be some other traps to deal with if trying this.

Lack of VCT would be a good reason to not do it, even though the 26 head flows better than a 25 head straight up and is therefore going to make better power.  The area under the curve might still lean towards a 25 head because of the VCT.

Edited by GTSBoy

Ya I knew about the vct and the head bolts which are not really an issue my vct barley ever was hooked up before the swap since the plug was damaged and always slid off so I'm not to worried about that.  I've located two rb26 heads one for 500 and one for 800 both are in great condition and on top of that i have a complete rb25 s1 head that i can sell.  I looks like I'll probably go with the 26 head if i go with a 1mm HG I think that will make it work a bit better.  IDK if any of the rb30 guys could way in on this that have used the rb26 head over the 25 that will probably be the closest swap to what I'm doing.

I've done this swap, there is no reason to swap to larger headbolts.. same thing the RB30 guys do.. just leave the 11mm studs be dowel pins will keep head located properly.

The front coolant passage on the head will need to be welded and reshaped to the 25 head gasket and the vct oil port in block i tapped and plugged with a grub screw...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Very nice - I also have a 92 GTST and hardly see any others around these days
    • When I need something else to edit, I use Movavi. A friend who does video editing on a daily basis recommended me) it's an easy video cutter to use for beginners
    • I need to edit some videos for work but I'm not good at all this. Which video editor can you recommend?
    • I think you're really missing the point. The spec is just the minimum spec that the fuel has to meet. The additive packages can, and do, go above that minimum if the fuel brand feels they need/want to. And so you get BP Ultimate or Shell Ultra (or whatever they call it) making promises to clean your engine better than the standard stuff....simply because they do actually put better additive packages in there. They do not waste special sauce on the plebian fuel if they can avoid it. I didn't say "energy density". I just said "density". That's right, the specific gravity (if you want to use a really shit old imperial description for mass per unit volume). The density being higher indicates a number of things, from reduces oxygen content, to increased numbers of double bonds or cyclic components. That then just happens to flow on to the calorific value on a volume basis being correspondingly higher. The calorific value on a mass basis barely changes, because almost all hydrocarbon materials have a very similar CV per kg. But whatever - the end result is that you do get a bit more energy per litre, which helps to offset some of the sting of the massive price bump over 91. I can go you one better than "I used to work at a fuel station". I had uni lecturers who worked at the Pt Stanvac refinery (at the time they were lecturing, as industry specialist lecturers) who were quite candid about the business. And granted, that was 30+ years ago, and you might note that I have stated above that I think the industry has since collected together near the bottom (quite like ISPs, when you think about it). Oh, did I mention that I am quite literally a combustion engineer? I'm designing (well, actually, trying to avoid designing and trying to make the junior engineer do it) a heavy fuel oil firing system for a cement plant in fricking Iraq, this week. Last week it was natural gas fired this-that. The week before it was LPG fired anode furnaces for a copper smelter (well, the burners for them, not the actual furnaces, which are just big dumb steel). I'm kinda all over fuels.
    • Well my freshly rebuilt RB25DET Neo went bang 1000kms in, completely fried big end bearing in cylinder 1 so bad my engine seized. No knocking or oil pressure issue prior to this happening, all happened within less than a second. Had Nitto oil pump, 8L baffled sump, head drain, oil restrictors, the lot put in to prevent me spinning a bearing like i did to need the rebuild. Mechanic that looked after the works has no idea what caused it. Reckoned it may have been bearing clearance wrong in cylinder 1 we have no idea. Machinist who did the work reckoned it was something on the mechanic. Anyway thats between them, i had no part in it, just paid the money Curiosity question, does the oil system on RB’s go sump > oil pump > filter > around engine? If so, if you had a leak on an oil filter relocation plate, say sump > oil pump > filter > LEAK > around engine would this cause a low oil pressure reading if the sensors was before the filter?   TIA
×
×
  • Create New...