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I wrote off my first car but had crashed it twice before the big one.

Made it through the second car without any major ones.

Crashed the third, fifth, seventh, hang on? is there a pattern developing here?

Sh!t, I hope the Skyline is an even number!!

doesnt sound like your a very good driver :throwup:

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not everyone crashes their car - or expensive car ! i drove the old mans merc (2000 e280... lowered with 18s... yummy... lol now its gone for a new 320... gotta save teh cash to get some sweet 18's or 19's from amg brabus or carlsson or even lorinser ...anyways) for 2 years b4 i got the skyline - not a scratch on her... had a 91 magna.. lol... not a scratch... got my line... not a scratch until my mate decided to run up my ass ( not my ass by the 'lines ass) with his supra... he was super lucky lol that he kinda went under and didnt smash his front end... meanwhile i had to get the bootline straightened out and the back impact beam or bar or whatever it was replaced... ahh well.. no love lost... still best of mates - but he fears driving behind me! lol (was at lights.. cars in front went and stopped - but he didnt see me stop and turned to talk to a mate and being an auto just kept on rollin + some gas!)

anyways- i believe if u crash a car chances are u were pushing the limits... so next time u would know the limit! but the only safe place to do someting like that is on a skid pan - so save it for the track and no the streets... there are maniacs on the road...

thats something similar to what Doohan said... anywys good luck - just dont hurt urselves!!! or others!

I drove my parents cressida and my sisters (crap) corona for a few months, in which time i practiced my drifting technique(although it was auto!) it was sort of scary and uncontrollable when sideways in the rain, but i never crashed it.

after that i had a swift gti for 2 years... in the first year alone it got crashed INTO by other stupid people at least 5 times (most small accidents) and one major one.. was on the free way at artarmon, drunk driver crashed into the barrier doing around 120 and bounced into the drivers side of my car, he was taken away with the police as his blood alcohol was .18!!! ...

i drove the skyline for one year as my second car 18-19 years old and never had a problem.. apart from some idiot keying it, and me scraping the bumper bar on one of those concrete things in a carpark.

yeh see..

u know what.. when i got my line the front bar nuderneath had real badges scratches from doing up driveways n shit... so i got it fixed... i managed to keep it scratch free for like a year and a half... then i got the car repsrayed for various reasons -then my clutch went last christmas... and u wouldnt believe it. my mechanic sold his work to a guy who he trained... ok but my mechanic knows that my car could only go up one of the hoists...the guy that just bought the business didnt know. and he did the job... yup he definately did it... scraped both sides of the front bar on the steel ramps...

man i was spewin...

if i saw anyone key a car - i would break their fingers.

i went through 3 crashes in my 99 lancer, first one was my fault - tree +100kph not good

you learn from that stupidity then people just do stupid stuff, like pull out in front of you etc or swerving to miss pedestrians on the road :cheers:

things happen until you can learn to forsee issue that will happen.. that comes with time!

but i have found that the power of a skyline can actually get you out of trouble rather than put you in it! plus their handling and braking ability!!

take it to a track (with the turbo running) and learn what it does, and how it reacts.. you dont always go sideways cause you want to!!

I got a crash i my old man's car. was going in the right lane and wanted to overtake to the left one (remember we drive opposite to you guys) looked in my rear view mirror and side mirror...no one was there, as i started to overtake a Range Rover came out of a U-turn (i was only 200 meters before teh u-turn when i started to overtake). so here i am in the middle of 2 lanes with a pickup on my right, a Range that's almost 1/3 of my left lane, and just enough space to squeaze between the 2. So i give it full throttle, but too late, BANG the Rover went right into my rear right wheel and the car was drifting towards a light pole!!!!

Anyway as soon as i heard bang i knew he hit my car, so i stepped on the brake as hard as i could and held the steering wheel like a monster.......end result.. car is over the pavement and 60cm away from the light pole. all this happend at a speed of 70 km/h only!!! yet it felt like at 0.000001km/h . everything was going in slow motion.

I came out unharmed, the rear wheel was cracked and air was coming outta the tire, after changing the tire we found the suspension was bent too.

who was wrong? well i did NOT use my turn signal when i overtook, neither did i honk the horn to stop the guy from driving into me (i never used it) but to my surprise the policeman said that the guy in the Range was wrong! I think the fact that he was on the phone didnt help him avoid me.....

car went to the insurance, they did a shitty job of repairing it, recevied it like they changed all the suspension parts, but after I drove the car for 500Meters the camber was like that of a drifts car, it still is till today (they want about u$2000 to fic it properly) and at 80kp/h feels like driving on a sword....real scary.

not been driving a lot since then, really hate to drive in the city. i still feel bad about it till today, like I am the one who was wrong.

rant.........

I also never had a crash on my P's, but I also never owned a high powered car on my P's.

But to be truthful I had a couple close calls that were all from stupidity.

On a side note there is a driving rule that I have much debate over with friends:

A freeway that has three lanes. One car in the far left and one in the far right lanes travelling at the same speed and level with each other. Both cars simultaneously indicate to move into the centre lane and collide with eachother. Who is at fault?

I think the driver in the left lane is at fault because he is merging towards his driver side and has a better view. And isnt the general rule to always give way to the right?

Whereas some people have told me that both drivers are at fault. I really am not sure.

A freeway that has three lanes. One car in the far left and one in the far right lanes travelling at the same speed and level with each other. Both cars simultaneously indicate to move into the centre lane and collide with eachother. Who is at fault?

The law states that you have to keep left unless overtaking.

The person in the right hand lane shouldn't be there if they're doing the same speed as the car in the left hand lane.

If both cars are indicating for the prescribed period of time, and neither of them realise they are moving towards each other, then they're both MORONS and deserve to collide. :P

People who abuse the right hand lane really piss me off.

It should only be used for overtaking.

The freeway laws should go back to the way they used to be...

You indicate to pull out, and you leave your indicator on the enitire time you're passing - so that people know you're passing, then when you have passed the car/s you turn your right indicator off, the left one goes on and you pull back into the left lane and continue on your merry way.

But back to the topic, I never crashed on my P's ;)

smooth sailing really although was never on P's which seem to give other drivers a good excuse to cut you off (my girlfriend is a P plater). Had a couple of close calls but you learn and move on.

bad luck when other people do stupid shit...just been wondering coz i'm buying a R33 GTS-T and only able to get 3rd party insurance... i'm gonna leave the wastegate open for the first 6-12 months though till i get experience for the turbo to be a bit safer..wat u all think

Based on the poll as it currently stands you have a 60% chance of crashing your car whether it's your fault or not, and a 10% chance of having it written off. Why the hell anyone would want a nice car like a Skyline for their first car is beyond me. Why don't you get a cheap POS car, that way it won't matter if you write it off. You're not even getting insurance (not like you could afford it anyway) and yet you're willing to take a risk that you only have a 40% chance of surviving your P's without damaging your car, and you have a 10% chance of writing it off and losing the whole $15k+. I think you would have better odds at the casino.

I drove a variety of POS cars until I was 25 and could afford to not get ripped off on insurnace. I didn't have any accidents in that time or have my car stolen, and yet I don't regret it at all. I'm not saying everyone should follow my example, but a turbo Skyline as your first car when you just get your P's, goddamn. Good luck with it, because you're going to need lots of it.

The law states that you have to keep left unless overtaking.

The person in the right hand lane shouldn't be there if they're doing the same speed as the car in the left hand lane.

If both cars are indicating for the prescribed period of time, and neither of them realise they are moving towards each other, then they're both MORONS and deserve to collide.  :P

the law also states "give way to your right" and in the instance mentioned, the car in the left lane is to give way to the car in the right lane

as for the poll, i ought an MA70 1987 toyota supra (NA DOHC3.0) when i was 16 and drove this while i was on my P's. then bought my r32 about 1.5years ago when i was still on my P's. haven't crashed either or even gotten a speeding ticket! (touch wood)

can say that the supra tought me alot about driving though and i am glad that i didn't jump straight into a turbocharged car

okay, I crashed within 10 minutes of having my p's. I was on the way home with my mum from the driving test. Came to an intersection with lights and was in the left lane waiting to turn right. In the right lane was a telstra van so I couldn't see what was coming from the right. Its raining, 3pm, my light goes green I pull out in my par's xf station wagon and bang, a hilux with a bullbar munches me in front of my front wheel well. The girl driving, who I went to school with, hops out the car and says " my boyfriends gonna kill me" so yeah, my car written off.

But it gets better.......

She told her insurance company and her boyfriend probably that I had run the red light. (i was trying to turn across a six lane road, yeah right) And I couldn't prove that it was her that ran the light cause I had no witnesses. So a couple of flyers were posted up at the local telstra depot. Nothing, and then again a month later, more flyers. We had had to pay our insurance excess because we could not prove she ran the light. A phonecall from a telstra guy came one day saying, yeah I saw that accident, she ran the red light for sure. He gave us a statement and our insurance was promptly paid for by her insurance.

What I would have given to see her face when she confessed to her family and boyfriend she a liar.. :P

U guys should all ride motorbikes. I rode a motorbike for about 4 years and it improved my driving 100% no question.

I have ever only had one accident in my car in 5 years, and it was a unlicensed driver driving into my car and only because I didnt have any more room to go.

U will also learn to head check, which is the NUMBER ONE cause of motorbike/car collisions. Cagers (car drivers) are stupid fooks and dont look out for bikes, and it shits me!

And yes I drive and ride.........

I think motorbikes are 10 times more unsafe and unpredictable than a car. I don't know how many times I've seen a motorbike go up between traffic and nearly loose it and get killed.

I had an accident in may this year (on my opens, not on my p's) where a guy ran up the back of my car and tried to say it was my fault. He refused to pay so I went through my insurance. Cost me nothing because I had all his details from when he ran into me. So instead of him paying $250, he's now paying $390. Idiot.

My skyline is *MY* first car. I've driven my b/f's cars when I was on my p's but never had an accident. We had a HJ kindswood and a ford laser. Both his cars. The skyline was the first car *I* purchased and I have not caused an accident as of yet. I haven't lost any points off my licence since it was issued. I've only once been pulled over by the police and that was for a warning for street racing. That's the ONLY time I've been pulled over.

As someone has already said, you drive within your limits, not within the cars limits. You always imagine that everyone else on the road is a moron and their actions are very unpredictable.

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