Putting a sealant over wax

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Hey all,

Here’s the thing. I bought my skyline way back in late 2014 and I have never clay barred it, polished it or waxed it to this day(2021). I would rate the paint a good 7.5-8/10. Water still beads on it (I never asked but I’m almost certain the previous owner had it clayed polished and put on a good quality ceramic coating wax). But recently a month ago I put Bowdens Afterglow on it. And the water beads a bit better now (see picture). I was wondering if this is a bad move on my part. I’m worried I compromised my ceramic coating wax. Can anyone give me any input on this?

Thanks

[junkie]

If its been 6 years since the ceramic was applied and the car has been driven regularly, its all gone by now. Probably time to re-do it.

Proper coatings wont be removed if you put other products over the top, but you will probably waste the products as they wont stick to the ceramic. Best to use a specific cermaic booster spray

[GTSBoy]

The thread topic says "sealant over wax", but the real question is really about "wax over sealant", yes?

In which case, as junkie says, yes, 6 years is long enough to need to redo a ceramic sealant.

No, there is no problem putting wax on top of a ceramic. Probably not necessary, but nothing wrong with it. Wax is always a good thing.

No, you could not put ceramic sealant over wax. The paint has to be bare. There are specific wax removal steps before most sealant application.

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23 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

The thread topic says "sealant over wax", but the real question is really about "wax over sealant", yes?

In which case, as junkie says, yes, 6 years is long enough to need to redo a ceramic sealant.

No, there is no problem putting wax on top of a ceramic. Probably not necessary, but nothing wrong with it. Wax is always a good thing.

No, you could not put ceramic sealant over wax. The paint has to be bare. There are specific wax removal steps before most sealant application.

Isn’t the ceramic coating a wax and afterglow I applied a sealant, not the other way around? My bad lmao

[GTSBoy]

No. Proper wax is made from carnuba palm leaves. It is an organic wax. There are synthetic waxes, but genuine carnuba wax is superior to a lot of the the synthetic ones.

Ceramic coats are..... well, they're ceramic. It's somewhat in the name. But to a certain extent that really depends on what product you're talking about. Pro grade coatings used by paint specialists are a hard ceramic glaze. The consumer level products a that come in a spray bottle can be almost anything, and some of them are probably a hybrid between a true ceramic glaze and a wax. Ease of application and requirement for repeated use (which is a high value for consumer product!) are defining characteristics of consumer grade stuff.

Sealants always go direct onto paint. Wax always goes on top. You cannot hope to make anything stick over the top of wax. Rejecting contamination from outside is what wax is all about.