Rotational Idle Settings

[SLIXK]

Getting poncams installed tommorow, and wondering if anyone has or knows of good settings for the rotational idle (haltech) with the same cams or similar spec 260/260 9.15 lift. There’s a few vids on YouTube with the same cams and they sound pretty lumpy for what it is, I just wanna have a muck around with it before the tuner does.

[GTSBoy]

What, you want to make it idle like it's a peripheral port rotary running a Microtech dial-an-ECU back in the early 90s?

Why?

[SLIXK]

  On 17/01/2024 at 8:59 PM, GTSBoy said:

What, you want to make it idle like it's a peripheral port rotary running a Microtech dial-an-ECU back in the early 90s?

Why?

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To sound like a legend obviously???

Rotational Idle is used to maintain a normal low idle speed when a fixed larger amount of air is being used for lift-off Anti-Lag purposes, or you just want to sound like a legend when your engine does not perform.

So do you have settings for me ??

Edited January 17, 2024 by SLIXK

[SLIXK]

It’s like asking me why have I deleted the bov, why did I opt for t51r mod, they don’t give you any power difference but it makes your car more fun to drive.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

You're better off enabling VCT from idle, and putting a timing hole into your zero demand ignition table

That would give you the lumpy idle you want, if you want to exaggerate it even more, reduce the lobe separation angle.

Rotational Idle sounds aids.

[GTSBoy]

  On 17/01/2024 at 10:27 PM, SLIXK said:

So do you have settings for me ??

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Well, no. But, surely you don't need "settings". Surely the tuner knows what he would need to do to make it sound like shit.

[SLIXK]

  On 17/01/2024 at 11:20 PM, GTSBoy said:

Well, no. But, surely you don't need "settings". Surely the tuner knows what he would need to do to make it sound like shit.

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I’ll send a vid once it sounds like shit, old timer.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Record one as well from the engine side, so you don't hear the exhaust too clearly.

It sounds terrible, exhaust side it might sound ok.

You're better off closing up the LSA by enabling VCT from idle and/or retarding the exhaust cam then putting in timing step/hole in the zero demand table.

 

[SLIXK]

  On 18/01/2024 at 5:54 AM, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Record one as well from the engine side, so you don't hear the exhaust too clearly.

It sounds terrible, exhaust side it might sound ok.

You're better off closing up the LSA by enabling VCT from idle and/or retarding the exhaust cam then putting in timing step/hole in the zero demand table.

 

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Will do.. I’ve seen a few videos from the front of the engine doesn’t sound bad imo… but I have heard someone with stock neo cams from the front it yeah it sounds like shit.

[r32-25t]

i haven’t watched the video but it says how to 

[SLIXK]

  On 18/01/2024 at 6:19 AM, r32-25t said:

i haven’t watched the video but it says how to 

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That’s an example of what it sounds like with factory cams.

[r32-25t]

One would assume the process will still be the same 

[SLIXK]

  On 18/01/2024 at 6:33 AM, r32-25t said:

One would assume the process will still be the same 

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Yeah it would but I’m just saying that to everyone saying it would sound like shit with my cams 

[soviet_merlin]

Looking forward to see what it'll sound like. Don't know anything about it but can appreciate a bit of lumpy idle on the right car. Though to be honest the examples in the video just make it sound a bit broken.

[Murray_Calavera]

  On 17/01/2024 at 10:45 PM, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

You're better off enabling VCT from idle, and putting a timing hole into your zero demand ignition table

That would give you the lumpy idle you want, if you want to exaggerate it even more, reduce the lobe separation angle.

Rotational Idle sounds aids.

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I vote you upload a video of your idle in here for those that haven't heard it before. (For those that haven't heard it, you need to hear it to appreciate how good it sounds)

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Wouldn't say it sounds good, however it sounds ok lol.

 

 

[TurboTapin]

  On 17/01/2024 at 10:00 AM, SLIXK said:

Getting poncams installed tommorow, and wondering if anyone has or knows of good settings for the rotational idle (haltech) with the same cams or similar spec 260/260 9.15 lift. There’s a few vids on YouTube with the same cams and they sound pretty lumpy for what it is, I just wanna have a muck around with it before the tuner does.

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I hate to disappoint, but my 272 9.30 lift Kelford cams idle butter smooth. I doubt your 260 Poncams will lump, unless idle control gets funny. I also watched the street syndicate video a few days ago that was posted here and he does a decent job of explaining how to set up rotational idle. You should be set. 

[GTSBoy]

If I had 292° cams in my car I'd still be trying to tune the idle to be as smooth as possible.

Choppy idle is not "cool". It is an indication that things are not working as well as they could. You can bet your bottom dollar that a race team engineer, running an engine with massive cams, is not trying to tune it to make the idle worse, even if it spends very little operational time at idle.

It's not 1970 any more. We can control this shit better.

 

[SLIXK]

  On 18/01/2024 at 12:42 PM, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Wouldn't say it sounds good, however it sounds ok lol.

 

 

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Can’t even hear anything lol, but there’s plenty of videos with it sounding good, what cams are in there ?

Edited January 19, 2024 by SLIXK

[SLIXK]

  On 18/01/2024 at 12:27 PM, Murray_Calavera said:

I vote you upload a video of your idle in here for those that haven't heard it before. (For those that haven't heard it, you need to hear it to appreciate how good it sounds)

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Yeah give us a geeze.