Feedback on Carbonetics: R34 GTT cooling panel

[DraftySquash]

Hi there,

Does anyone here have the carbonetics slam panel installed on their R34 GTT? Or used to have one and got some pics of how it sat?

https://carbonetics.net/products/1999-2002-nissan-skyline-r34-gtt-cooling-slam-panel?srsltid=AfmBOoo6Uz0nuxGI3qC0sn56KJI6PMgh0OvV-pbegsPDHTtTxz4IMljc

I’m just trying to get an idea of how they sit once installed but these guys have no pics. 
biggest question I’m trying to figure out is what the hell the 3 holes at the front of the panel are 😂 and where they bolt 

 

Thanks in advance 

[Milkmun]

Weird the Gktech one doesn't have the 3 holes and is only a 5min install if you have the standard front bar.

[Kinkstaah]

Just walk away from the cooling panels. I've had one and it was a fancy carbon one from Japan (let alone a copy of one) and didn't actually line up with the GTT. Had cutouts and things. And probably more importantly, if you look closely at how your bonnet seals, there's a rubber strip on the underside of the bonnet that does the job you want this carbon panel to do.

 

[DraftySquash]

On 12/09/2024 at 10:43 PM, Milkmun said:

Weird the Gktech one doesn't have the 3 holes and is only a 5min install if you have the standard front bar.

@Milkmun Yeah I was looking at the Gktech one as well and just holds on with the 2 bolts at the middle and no front section that goes upwards. 
I've watched one of the Youtube installations of it and the only thing with that is that I'd need to drill a hole for the screw that holds the oil cooler in A/T.
 

@Kinkstaah It's purely just to make the bay look cleaner and not have a gaping hole at the front 🤣 I'm getting some bad mojo from this panel and have a feeling it only works in S1 (even though they never mention it)

[DraftySquash]

@Kinkstaah So... I took your advice and looked under the bonnet... is this where the rubber strip should be?

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[GTSBoy]

Look on the top of the radiator support panel. ie, look down from there.

[Milkmun]

On 13/09/2024 at 9:56 AM, DraftySquash said:

@Milkmun Yeah I was looking at the Gktech one as well and just holds on with the 2 bolts at the middle and no front section that goes upwards. 
I've watched one of the Youtube installations of it and the only thing with that is that I'd need to drill a hole for the screw that holds the oil cooler in A/T

Would get the Gktech one then, it's 1 hole which would be straight forward to drill, plus it's a third of the price.span widget

Edited September 13, 2024 by Milkmun
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[DraftySquash]

On 13/09/2024 at 11:21 PM, GTSBoy said:

Look on the top of the radiator support panel. ie, look down from there.

oh whooops.. does that mean there  should be something clipped here? (bottom of image)

[GTSBoy]

Yes, well, one or the other. On R32 (which is the only thing I can look at personally) it's on the rad support panel. You have neither, and it will need to be on one or the other. I must say that the arrangement of holes perhaps looks more like it lives on the bonnet underside on the R34. The rad support panel doesn't look like the R32 one at all.

A quick google shows....

[Kinkstaah]

20 hours ago, DraftySquash said:

@Kinkstaah So... I took your advice and looked under the bonnet... is this where the rubber strip should be?

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That is what will seal with the bonnet closed. Follow it down while closing the bonnet to see where it ends up with the bonnet closed.

The panels don't do anything other than spending money, which this one will do just fine. :p

[The Bogan]

If you can get access to a guillo (or dremel), and a break press (I've used home made folders out of timber and a few hinges), and a dremel for notching, there is about $10 of alloy and some time involved with making one

I've made a few things like this, start with a cardboard template, measure twice, cut once

I typically then sand the edges, hit it with wax and grease remover, then wrinkle coat it, you can also add pinch weld to make it prettier 

As for fittings, plastic push clips work

Use the saved money to buy tools

Or, make a cardboard templates and get your local metal fabrication joint to knock it out

When I was a young lad I was a sheet metal worker, we had heaps of people walking into the shop with small templates people wanted transfered onto  steel or alloy, usually paid for in beer

>$300 = "Jebus"

[hardsteppa]

On 13/09/2024 at 9:40 AM, Kinkstaah said:

Just walk away from the cooling panels. I've had one and it was a fancy carbon one from Japan (let alone a copy of one) and didn't actually line up with the GTT. Had cutouts and things. And probably more importantly, if you look closely at how your bonnet seals, there's a rubber strip on the underside of the bonnet that does the job you want this carbon panel to do.

 

welll...you'd think so, indeed I did for a long time, but - after making my own fibreglass one, and in fairness, also making up fibreglass side and bottom panels to seal the intercooler>body gaps, my coolant temps plummeted. Like, average 76 degrees, thermostat temp. When set up properly, for sure they work.

[Kinkstaah]

I added one, it made the car hotter....

Mind you, that one looked great, did nothing so I sold it on. If you make actual good working ducts as above, it'll definitely work.

This isn't that though, out of the box :p

[Duncan]

Bit late....but the one on my stagea has additional holes too, it is for clearance of the bolt heads which hold the radiator latch upright to the radiator support (ie, they are not to locate the panel)

[IM-32-FK]

@DraftySquash @Duncan

he's not talking about the part that sits against the radiator support, he’s talking about the lip that sits towards the front outside of the car.

anyway I had a look at other cooling panels and came across this one

https://justjap.com/products/carbing-radiator-cooling-panel-plate-nissan-skyline-r34-gt-t?variant=37829684134087&currency=AUD&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Advanced feed&utm_content=Carbing Radiator Cooling Panel Plate fits Nissan Skyline R34 GT-T (Coupe)&srsltid=AfmBOoonzPDKqe9NgKi5U0AkFc2XvbXETGmNWvfNcyBT5DUZagMYHg9DZ70

if you take notice it’s the same shape. 
well thankfully the justjap listing has a description and it says :

- Nissan Skyline R34 GT-T Coupe (M/T -07/2000)

this means it’s specifically for a s2. S2’s have different front bars to s1 so that lip with the 3 holes are *probably* mounting points for the s2 bar.

im not 100% sure but im almost certain it will still fit a s1 bar 

 

 

 

[IM-32-FK]

@DraftySquash @Duncan

i misspoke, or this might be the other way.

someone sent me a low res pic of it on

It might completely close off the gap in red like in the second pic (second pic has gktech cooling panel on) .The 3 holes are for the plastic rivets used to secure down the front bar. The outer holes on the radiator side go underneath the condenser brackets

If thats the case then there’s going to be no air going in through the grill between the bonnet and the bar for the radiator and condenser. Isn’t that bad? I mean less airflow to the radiator and condenser is all I’m saying

Edited yesterday at 04:13 AM by IM-32-FK

[IM-32-FK]

On 13/9/2024 at 9:40 AM, Kinkstaah said:

Just walk away from the cooling panels. I've had one and it was a fancy carbon one from Japan (let alone a copy of one) and didn't actually line up with the GTT. Had cutouts and things. And probably more importantly, if you look closely at how your bonnet seals, there's a rubber strip on the underside of the bonnet that does the job you want this carbon panel to do.

 

have a look at the other 2 stock rubber strips marked in blue. As you can see, they press against the cooling panel and leave marks. If the cooling unit panel isn’t there, the strip press against nothing therefore have no use. So Nissan was thinking ahead when they manufactured the cars, as they must’ve known people will install the panels in the future. Otherwise think about it, why else would they be there? Therefore that in itself directly infers that cooling panels do something.

It might be to stop water and stop some air from going above the cooling panel so more of the air can be redirected between the cooling panel and the front bar towards the condenser and radiator. I tried to take a pic of it while the bonnet was closed but u can’t see shit in the photo

Edited yesterday at 04:56 AM by IM-32-FK

[r32-25t]

I bought one for a 32 and it was junk, found its way into the bin

[GTSBoy]

1 hour ago, IM-32-FK said:

So Nissan was thinking ahead when they manufactured the cars, as they must’ve known people will install the panels in the future. Otherwise think about it, why else would they be there?

Yes, at least 10 years before anyone ever thought of making such a panel. Of course.

[IM-32-FK]

18 minutes ago, GTSBoy said:

Yes, at least 10 years before anyone ever thought of making such a panel. Of course.

What I’m saying is that I never heard of a non gtr 34 coming with a cooling panel stock or factory option. Maybe they might’ve I don’t know