Short shifter r34

[drifter17a]

Hi all

 

what short shifter do you use on your skykine r34?

 

my synchronous does have a problem and i was getting huge delay and grinding sound between 2nd and 3rd, did put shockproof red heavy stuff and it is great now/ no issues

 

would in your view short shifter screw this up?

 

people seems to suggest/ use cube short shifter and there is standard and premium. Seen review of premium as much better and less play. Thoughts?

[robbo_rb180]

stock shifter with new bushes, springs and cup will improve it. Gktech do all the bits.
The opinion as the years have gone on is the redline is not great in old gearboxes.

[PLYNX]

Don't do it if your gearbox box has already having syncro issues.

The short hifter will put a greater load on them.

If you must I remember Nismo did a shorter shifter, with the top part being physically shorter and the part that went into the gearbox was the same as stock.

In saying that I've had a C's short shifter (I think) in mine for many years, which was given to me as the previous owner was not sympathetic to the gearbox.

Thus forwarned I was careful and had to modify my normal changing style. You have to be super accurate with your clutch and shifts

[GTSBoy]

13 hours ago, drifter17a said:

what short shifter do you use on your skykine r34?

I don't, and I wouldn't.

[drifter17a]

Throw between gears are so much that is getting annoying. I have pro short shifter on my mx5 and e36 and love it . Skyline is getting unbearable 

 

would syncro issues and short shifter is no no? Anyone mind explaining a little on why before i buy cube

[Kinkstaah]

Because you're effectively rushing the shift and forcing it to go in - with greater leverage against parts that don't _want_ to go together. Short shift = forcing the gear in harder.

Also Redline Heavy Shockproof actively says not to use it in anything with Synchros.
Well, it says "not recommended" which is basically as far as anyone will ever say in a product statement to "Do not use"

Generally the Redline makes the gearbox feel great... until it fails faster.

https://www.redlineoil.com/heavy-shockproof

[joshuaho96]

1 hour ago, drifter17a said:

Throw between gears are so much that is getting annoying. I have pro short shifter on my mx5 and e36 and love it . Skyline is getting unbearable 

 

would syncro issues and short shifter is no no? Anyone mind explaining a little on why before i buy cube

Throws on the FS5R30A in most Nissans of this era are actually quite short and direct compared to any remotely modern BMW with the S6-53 transmission. Those things have throws a mile long with rubbery vague everything. Synchro issues combined with a short shifter is just going to break everything even faster.

[drifter17a]

I should video mine, will prob do it tomorrow

 

 Between 1st and 3rd, you could fit another two gears. That is how loose and wobbly it is

 

horrible:(

[Duncan]

How much does the shifter move when the car is in gear with the engine off? If it is more than about 1cm you need to replace your shifter bush.

Your shifts will just get crunchier, not faster, with a short shifter unless you also rebuild the whole box

[GTSBoy]

Let's just fix the problem by f**king the rest of the gearbox.

[drifter17a]

3 hours ago, Duncan said:

How much does the shifter move when the car is in gear with the engine off? If it is more than about 1cm you need to replace your shifter bush.

Your shifts will just get crunchier, not faster, with a short shifter unless you also rebuild the whole box

Way more than 1cm. Appreciate the advice maybe I try changing the bushing first

[Duncan]

You can get nylon ones for nissan or aftermarket brass bushes for a tighter fit (GKTech I think?)

[joshuaho96]

1 hour ago, drifter17a said:

Way more than 1cm. Appreciate the advice maybe I try changing the bushing first

Start by replacing the bushing and shifter cup. Two plastic pieces in the OEM shift mechanism that can wear out and cause these problems. It's like 15 USD from Amayama before shipping. You can replace with aftermarket brass bushings but personally I was fine with OEM. The stock shifter working properly doesn't feel like there's any real problems with it.