any point to import an N/A?

[SS8_Gohan]

hey guys,

just wanting to get ur opinion on something....is there any point going to the hassle of importing a N/A R33 GTS??????

no offence to the other N/A owners out there, what i mean is that cos it's sort of 'involved' to import a car, and when i'll be getting a turbo in the end anyway (only 18) just wondering if i should just wait to get a turbo, or go ahead and import a N/A now before everything gets all shitty with the importing.

and for those wondering why i don't just get a turbo straight away (and i have enough money) is parent issues...don't get me started.... :D i'm still working on them, but it's not looking good....

appreciate the help/advice

thanks.

[Warpspeed]

Seems to me that if you can afford to get a n/a, get it now. Like the rest of us you will want to make it go faster, and add little goodies as you can afford them. Insurance is also a big thing to think about as well.

The bit by bit method might also be a way around your parents concerns.

[ex-static]

Just get the turbo version, but tell your parents its an N/A they wont know.. they look the same.

Insurance is going to be a killer wether its an N/A or not.

[SS8_Gohan]

insurance is all worked out.....kinda.....$638 Third Party Fire and Theft, i know it's not the ideal situation but full comp is $4712, not too bad considering age and car. But i've only got a few months left until i'm rating 5, so that will make it $3800 full comp. Then i think 20% reduction every rating.

I have enough money to buy a turbo...but....my parents are putting in 5K, so i'm putting in 11 to 12K.....so i think it would be a bit hard to get around the fact that i'm getting a turbo, i really don't think there is anyway i could hide it, and i don't want to think about the consequences when i get it here, and i show dad what's under the hood and he says....................

"what's that hairdryer looking thing???"" uh.....:innocent:.....that's...just what all the RB engines look like....

i know insurance is a bitch, but it is the same for ANY car, not just a skyline. They wanted $2500 for my Nissan Pulsar hatchback GLi, 1.6ltr 4 cyclinder!!! ANY car full comp is too much at my age, so it doesn't matter what i get basically.

Their main concern is that i don't have enough experience to drive a turbo, which in a way is wrong bcos if i don't have enough experience on the road then ANY car i'm in will be dangerous...i think they more mean, i don't have the skills to drive a turbo. Which i agree, but i said i'd pay for an advance driving course and do all the stuff and in a couple of months i'll be fine. I barely drive as it is, like only 10min trips 5 times a week. That's it, i don't think i need heaps of experience to drive down beach road at sixty, even if i was in the bloody Enzo Ferrair!! .......*sigh*, it's just that i know i'll get a turbo eventually be it next year, or 18months but i want to take the chance to get a cheap one now, while i've still got it that's all..........so ur overall opinion, import the N/A or just wait to get the turbo??

thanks guys

[Warpspeed]

You sound like a pretty smart level headed sort of person to me, and you already have the insurance angle all figured out.

Get the n/a, and be happy that your parents were prepared to tip in 5K. Start saving for the GTST, and when you have that, start saving for the GTR. By the time you can afford these cars you will have enough self confidence and experience to handle the performance. Unless you have a major prang, your parents are going to realise that you are not a boy anymore. Parents are like that.

[SS8_Gohan]

thanks warspeed. I really appreciate the advice, but it's soooo damn hard to get the turbo option off the drawing board!!! just not sure that if i got a N/A that i'd be able to get rid of it, to buy a GTS-T when they think i'm able to get one...that's another issue, i know a N/A won't be as much as a turbo, so i won't be spending as much, so that will be a plus....but for all the hassle of importing..........just not sure. And i know it will only be like 3 - 6months before they realise that it's not a problem, take them out in the car every now and then, i know they think they are doing the responsible thing by not letting me get a fast car, but they have just swallowed too much of the today tonight crap, i can assure you i'm am not like those guys.....i worked bloody hard to get the car in the first place, why would the first i do be thrashing the crap out of it and burning the clutch out dragging every car i see???? doesn't make sense.......

anyways warpseepd, i've taken ur advice on board, and am really considering it....cos skylines are such awesome cars, i don't think i'd be too disappointed with a N/A ...

[SS8_Gohan]

GTR?? I can assure you that i'll be driving one eventually, around 25yrs old??...if i'm lucky and have a good job (which is why i'm buying a skyline the first place cos i've got a job that pays well) i might have a R34 GTR! but would more than happy with a R33 GTR, it's definitely on the wish list......but i just want to learn how to drive a car properly, how to get out of a skid, locked brakes, rev matching, all those things, but i think trying to do those in a pulsar hatchback might not be the greatest...

[Pva_Glue]

Import R34 GT-X or was that GT-TX...?!?!?!?

cheers

Joe

[SS8_Gohan]

could be a little out of the budget i'm guessing...any idea what they go for??

[Warpspeed]

You have raised an interesting point about n/a cars being difficult to sell. I have no idea ? If its true then perhaps you may be able to pick up a real bargain n/a locally, rather than import.

There may be other advantages such as being able to see and drive the car, and not having to wait.

[SS8_Gohan]

you've hit the nail on the head there warpspeed, just wondering if i should bother with the hassle of importing when i could get a N/A here.....only thing is that i would love a silver one, like all silver not the two tone. That colour and N/A, and manual....be pushing it i think, that's the thing with importing, you will wait, but you will also get exactly what you want....but i'll definitely have a look around...good idea..

[croat]

hey SS8GOHAn..... i had the same problems as u with my parents... i got my r33 gtst when i was 18... talk to ur parents and ask them if they want to test drive 1 cause they are not that fast until u start modding them... insurance will be a problem whether u get n/a or turbo... i had heaps of probems in getting my car no money, licence, and insurance made my parents freak!!! just have a good talk and im sure u will end up happy!

good luck.

[doxximus]

go for the n/a if its the easiest way money wise and parental wise. get used to driving it then later on change the engine or change the car or whatever if you have to.

[SS8_Gohan]

so how did u get around it croat?? what was the thing u said or did that made them say that it's ok?? Dad has test driven a N/A and he said there wasn't much punch to it....but he does a fast car himself, BMW 530i '01, .......but that is only 170Kw.....i'm just thinking....it could work in my favour, cos he might step outta the GTS-t and think, ah...it ain't that fast......or he might go, fkcing hell!!!! what was that???.......so, it could be the last resort. I'll keep that in mind tho.....but yeah, again, what was it that made ur parents let u get a turbo?? Don't worry, everything is worked out, money, insurance, had a license since real early this year, so the only thing left is the parents

[SS8_Gohan]

where can i get a RB26DETT Colt???? wouldn't mind one of those!! :mad: that would be a weapon.....i can just see, panels all different colours cos they've been replaced, rust everywhere, rocking up to a drag.....hehehe, be funny. What's ur GTS like doxximus, she go alright??

Money? not a prob, can afford either a turbo or n/a

[puckish]

Go the Turbo. I had no end of trouble trying to sell my N/A. One of the guys here in Perth is so frustrated in trying to sell his he's going a turbo conversion.

Finacially the best thing to do is buy a manual turbo. It's going to be easier to sell than a N/A. But as far as importing I think you might be better off (as a first time buyer) getting something already here off one of the guys.

[doxximus]

ey! the colt is in imaculate condition! white body, blue interior, it will own u all.

yeah the n/a line is pretty good, lucky i got it though i got used to driving it so thats alright, saving for half cut now should be fun

[SS8_Gohan]

oh...i wasn't referring to ur specific colt doxximus, just trying to picture buying one..... anyways, had a big blow up with the parents over the whole Turbo issue, i am not being biased here, but i completely owned them in the argument, it pretty much came down to the old "i don't like skylines" and "no turbo", why not? "cos", i had an answer to absolutely everything and then some...wouldn't even agree to a test-drive in one, prob cos he'd get out and realise that i could handle one, but then he'd be wrong and he can't have that. fcking parents, don't know jack sh!t, argh!!!!! i am soooooooooo fcking angry right now that it's not funny........this pretty much means i will not be getting a skyline for at least a year (if not a lot longer, they wouldn't even say when i could get one) as it will take about that much time to get about 18k together, bcos god damn it i want a silver skyline, and they are all expensive!! but if imported from japan i could get exactly what i want right now, for about 16.5K, but noooo.....

i am fcking close to tears i am this disappointed......

:mad:

p.s. just have to add this....then they turn around and say, "for 17K, you could get a nice new lancer???" ARGHHHHHHHHH!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF FCKING MORONS!!!!! :mad: :mad:

R33 GTS-t or lancer sh;t box? ........just have parents with absolutely no fcking clue...

/cry

[EXIT]

I wouldn't bother importing a N/A GTS.

With that kinda money, you could buy a 2 year old car at an auction (ex govt/fleet etc.), drive it for a year or two, save your money in the meantime and then buy the car of your dreams and get good money for the trade-in.

I know it means you gotta wait a while, but if you're a good driver and have no speeding tickets or insurance claims during that time, then the insurance premium for your dream car will be lots cheaper.

In the meantime, you'd have gained some valuable driving experience which will come in handy. Advanced driver training is also a good idea.

This is just my opinion, but turbos and 18 year olds are generally not a good mix! You may think you're a good driver and level headed etc., but it only takes a bit of stirring from your friends / passengers to make you go just a little bit too fast which could end in tragedy.

I'm speaking from experience here because the two sons from my next-door neighbours were killed when they were passengers in a V8 driven by an 18 yr old P plater. The car hit a tree and was literally ripped in half...

By all means, follow your dreams, enjoy your car, but do a reality/sanity check every now and then and realise your limitations.

In the meantime, buy a "normal" / cheap car (gasp, shock, horror! ), save more money and gain driving experience.

Cheers,

EXIT

[SS8_Gohan]

one word...EXIT.....wise....

look, i understand completely everything you've just said, and yes i do have a normal car (nissan pulsar hatchback gli 1.6ltr, 4 cyclinder) hence the reason to upgrade, and the only reason why i'm think of upgrading is bcos i have a decent job that can afford not only the GTS-t but also the upkeep and insurance.

if i was driving the car every day, into the city, uni, across the suburbs, then maybe i would re-think jumping into a 187kw car, but driving down beach road at 60km/h for 10 mins, then taking the train to the City i don't believe needs lots of experience. Granted, i will drive a lot more with a decent car, but it still all be local, work is in the city also, so it's cheaper to go by train. That's why i was thinking getting a turbo at my age would be ok.

that's a sad story exit and i've been in cars driven by friends doing some crazy stuff, and there has been a few crashes amongst my friends, luckily nothing too serious. But i know you won't believe me, but i really am not like ur typical 18, i've worked real hard to save up my 11K (12 soon), the last thing i wanna do is thrash the crap out of my car at every light, i saw a turbo Audi and Supra racing the other day, 60km/h roads, parked cars, busy.....sorry, that just ain't for me.....

why get a turbo u ask? cos i plann on doin it up (when i'm older, wasn't even thinking of modding it if i got it) for maybe track days, drags, love to try it on a track. I'm also thinking long term, resale value, i'm sure i could sell a Silver, turbo, manual pretty easy if i needed too. And i know that if i look after it, it will last, which i was planning on it doing. And also cos the whole new crappy import scheme, limited time to get a cheap turbo......

EXIT, despite what u may think, i thought pretty long whether i wanted to get turbo or not, it wasn't like, i'm 18 and want a fast car. But after looking around and seeing what little i would get for my budget, the skyline just seemed the way to go. I still don't think u can beat it value for money, reliability, handling, looks, performance, and ability to increase the performance considerably (when i'm older).......to me, 16K for all that seemed a bargain............oh well, the argument is mute now anyway........perhaps ur wise head of urs and my parents complete disinterest of cars and what they mean to me might have saved my life....who knows...

/rant