Lets kick the bitch!

[JH32]

Ok living next to the guy that got the government GTR is a guy who got a Porsche GT3  by ripping off families who drive holden kingswoods and on the other side of the gtr guy is a guy with a Lotus Elise which was bought buy his scandinavian parents.

I still dont get your point. Your pissed because someone got a better deal on finance then you?

Re-read your post. You're obviously one of those people that sees someone with something and, because you can't afford it yourself (ie. the GT3 or the Elise) ... then you assume they got it not through hard work but through illegitimate, or otherwise, means.

If you didn't understand my GTR analogy then perhaps you'd better resit year 7

I'm not arguing this any further because you obviously have a bee in your bonnet and I can't be ****ed.

Back to Michelle Roberts ...

[N I B]

Re-read your post. You're obviously one of those people that sees someone with something and, because you can't afford it yourself (ie. the GT3 or the Elise) ... then you assume they got it not through hard work but through illegitimate, or otherwise, means.

If you didn't understand my GTR analogy then perhaps you'd better resit year 7

I'm not arguing this any further because you obviously have a bee in your bonnet and I can't be ****ed.

Back to Michelle Roberts ...[/quote

Got it in one,sorry sean but you do carry a lot of baggage.

Lets get this petition going, some one write it up and we can all print it out and start getting names on paper.

[R33 Impul]

Ahhh Politics ......... Don't you just love it

[raasclaat]

Oh well , here is my 2 cents I will be submitting. I really had no interest before, but I am hardly ever pro-active, so here goes. It requires my formatting and proof reading before i send it off to the fat slat.

In the interest of saving lives please consider better driver training for young drivers.

I will base my thoughts on the youth because this is what has been the major focus in the media hype of P-platers curfew and the “hoon” legislation. Every story in the paper focuses on pulling the heartstrings of parents when they read that yet another 17yr old has died in a car accident.

It is obvious that the current driving examination and preparation is not only inadequate, but unrealistic when applied to real situations. To explain further; similar to doctors and surgeons, drivers license holders actions are potentially responsible for the wellbeing of other citizens lives. No matter how long a student doctor studies textbooks and does practical examination work nothing can possibly prepare him/her for the scenarios which will arise when treating a real patient. For this reason graduates in these professions have a period where they must sit in at an established clinic in which they can experience these situations first hand, with the guidance of a professional. This practice could similarly be applied to new drivers. I am positive that nearly every parent has to face one of their biggest fears the day that their son or daughter obtains their drivers license. The risk to their child’s life has now significantly increased at their own hands, and the hands of other road users. No matter how well their child does in their written and practical driving test, nothing at all can prepare them for real situations they will face on the road. Situations that will take split second decisions, and all of which are unfortunately completely new experiences. The real learning happens on the road in observing accidents, and the involvement of near misses and the likes. Unfortunately these learning experiences are a roll of the dice which can result in injury or a fatality. It is human nature for young people to test their grounds and mortality regardless of laws. They will do this on the road, just like they do with drugs, smoking and anything else they are told not to do. The only way they will ever learn not to do these things is by negative experiences. An advanced driving course will allow them to test their curiosity and get involved in dangerous scenarios in a controlled environment to better understand the possible ramifications of their actions on the road. They will learn to drive on various road surfaces, wet, loose gravel and the likes. The driving techniques they learn will allow them to see and avoid potentially hazardous conditions before they have the need to use quick reflexes or highly-developed skills to get out of trouble. Alternatively they may already be in a situation and these practiced skills will be second nature to help them maneuver out of it. I wish I had the opportunity to undergo this type of training when obtaining my license.

When dealing with young drivers, I am confident that there is as much proof that “Speed Kills” as much as “inexperience” does.

Please educate our young drivers, purely for the interest of saving lives and lets forget about simply creating revenue.

[Packy]

Just read most of these posts and all i can think of, if your not doing anything stupid, then you won't get pulled over. And you won't loose your car !!!

In Qld they have had the hooning laws for about 2 years now, and its working damn good. It has stopped the 'hoons' in their commodores and falcons from doing stupid things. Yes there has also been imports impounded, but thats cos they were 'hoons'.

I'm not saying i'm perfect in my cars, but if i was caught, then i would loose my car. You do the crime, you pay the price. Easy as that.

On another note, do all ya 'hooning' at the track

EOR

[raasclaat]

agreed packy, but that is not what they are using as their artillery.

They are claiming they want to save lives. This is not only a hooning thing, is an ongoing problems where speed limit after speed limit is lowered, law after law is passed, and all of these things are small bandaids to the big picture.

but i agree...it will stop hooning. I am afraid to even give my car a SHORT squirt now on a dead straight road where there are no cars and possibly intersecting traffic.

[N I B]

The point is many hoons are going to run and it may be you or your family-freinds that the hoon runs into and kills.

[letemlaf]

i like this thread!

[N I B]

Let this happen before its to late.