jager Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 pretty much, what i said in the title how does this new hooning law work?? second of all how does this effect mechanics that are going for a test drive?? example the car isn't reving so i take it for a drive going rev crazy, or like the guy behind where i work does suspension set ups, alot of drift takes round the back for a bit of a spin pushing it a bit to test it, how are these guys gonna be treated, as all there doin is making a living i can't see the government building a test track behind each work shop Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Its pretty simple, the rules of the road are set. Being a mechanic or a suspension engineer doesnt give you indemnity from these rules. We all know that this is the way it goes, so if you get caught - wear it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jager Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 yeah i know... off the topic though your car looks pretty similar to mine (like the same)except for the mags + i have twin fin gtr spoiler on the back, looks nice get some BN skirts and read bar should looks sweet Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I will be keeping the factory GTR styling thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMMMAYYY Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 From what i heard on the radio today, the new laws have SFA to do with what you're car looks like, or what engine mods n so on, but more so the way you disturb residential area's with you're exhausts, burnouts, donuts and so on. Sounds like just another reason to dob someone with a fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 As you have all by now seen or heard ,the police now have the right to accuse you of being a 'hoon' and can do it once,twice, or three times in one day and your $60,000.00 pride and joy can be confiscated and not only not returned but sold off and you have no redress at all! Now if they think we are going to take this latest bit of bullshit laying down without a fight they have under estimated what strength lies within every one get of the fat arse and putting there hands up.(Trust me we need numbers and we need them right now-not like a lot of you who are soft c--ks and say your going to turn up to this and that and then back out with lame excuses!)Sorry if im sounding harsh but this the reality that the police have all the power we have no redress and tha dickhead rann and co are going to trust the police not to be corrupt!And you where we stand with defects on that score with the police either being instructed or taking some of the law into their own hands,and regency backing it up with their own little mix of illegal activities such as not complying to the ADR's that theyre trying to protect themselves and to top it off not being accredited to any other organisation( such as an iso or aust accredition) nor complying with the other checking centers aust wide nor complying with the aust gov. own recommendations with what should happen re polution checks on cars and how they should be carried out. Anyhow this is enough from me ,but trust me, this effects everone who owns and drives a vehicle- they only have to say you have and thats it- it could be a grandpa reving up the car to back a heavy trailer or caravan on to his own propertyTHINK ABOUT THAT! Regards, SKYLINE.... :bs!: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinful Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I agree with skyline. Im a bit worried that the cops can accuse you of excessive noise or burnouts with out any proof and they can take your car away after the third offence. I dont get on with are neighbours next door cause he is a shift worker and he spews when we go out on the weekend and always calls the cops and complains cause are cars are loud starting up and we warm them up for awhile so he is going to be able to make some bull@$#% up now about us hooning around the streets and get away with it and then ill get fined .... I THINK THIS NEW LAW SUXS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'm keen to hear exactly what this law entails. So who are we voting for? lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4door_Sleeper Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I am very concerned as well. - How hard is it to chirp the rear tyres when you take off at the lights on a wet day - sorry you were hooning. - Music was turned up too loud - sorry you loose your car - Speed up to safely pass another car - sorry you were drag racing. Lets face it, the police basically need proof in the form of a photo, or to show you the radar gun to be booked for speeding or running a red light. If your tyres are worn or your car is otherwise (unsafe) you get sent to regency - who can remove the defect if it wasn’t warranted (i.e. the police need to have proof) and in each of these cases you get a small fine or penalty and maybe a few points off of your licence (which you can contest in a court of law.) But these laws only require a policeman to say they saw XYZ and you could potentially loose your $40,000+ GTR. Where is the burden of proof as is required for every other criminal offence? If all police cars were equipped with video cameras and they could prove your guilt then fine, you’ve been nicked, but without proof this s bullsh1t. Are there any constitutional lawyers out there, because I think there must be a case in this lot. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 This is what looks like will be happening soon. “Hoons will be temporarily without wheels from the moment they are caught, and if their case goes to court, they face having their car impounded, their licence disqualified and the likelihood of a fine. Some drivers could even be forced to forfeit their car after being caught three or more times,” said the Premier. The Summary Offences (Vehicle Misuse) Bill will allow Police to issue a misuse notice, similar to a defect sticker, immediately restricting the vehicle from use by the offending driver for 28 days. Subsequent penalties include: First offence – maximum fine of $2 500 and the offender’s vehicle can be impounded for up to three months. Second or subsequent offence (within five years) - maximum $2 500 fine, offender’s vehicle can be impounded for up to six months, licence disqualification for up to six months. Third offence – can also lead to forfeiture of the offender’s vehicle if used for the crime. Hoons using other people’s cars will be banned from driving that person’s vehicle and face a hefty fine as well as possible loss of licence for multiple offences. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 and.. Actions to be defined as hoon behaviour include: Vehicle racing, speed trials or pursuits Sustained wheel spin Creating engine or tyre noise likely to disturb residents Breaking up the ground surface of parks or gardens without consent. and.. A vehicle may not be impounded or forfeited if it would cause undue hardship to another person who owns the car. The South Australian Government is not going down New South Wales’ path of blanket vehicle confiscation because of the high level of administration and storage costs to the Police. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Looks like a little loop hole will be to register/insure the car in joint names. After reading a little more it looks like this law has stemed from Anzac highway Glenelg. We can thank our brothers in their white hats flicked backwards, left shoulder sloped down, right wrist on the top of the steering wheel, big sub woofa in tha boot all in a V6 commodore with standard bendix brake pads that wouldn't pull them up from 100km/h without stinking. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 but joel, they'll be the ones that get kained.. not generally the SAU population, unless of course they participate in such activites. SA is just following WA, NSW, and QLD where they have had these laws for a while (although i think WA was fairly new). Seems they just copy what sounds ok on paper in the other states. In practice though, the hooning continues, just the idiots out there get caught. Doesnt' really achieve much, and havent really seen it impacting too much locally here. Why just as i'm typing this, somebody in a rex decides they're going to floor it up the hill up our street.. happens 50 times a day. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 TO ALL, I've done my bit--- ive gotten off my fat arse and sent off a two page email to my local mp, who happans to be trish white minister for transport!!! RIGHT WHO,S NEXT??? Regards, SKYLINE.... :wassup: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4door_Sleeper Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 TO ALL, I've also done my bit--- ive sent emails to my local mp, trish white minister for transport, and Mike Rann !!! RIGHT WHO,S NEXT??? Regards, 4door_Sleeper PS - if you dont get off your butt and have your say now, dont complain later when they take your ride away. You can find the email address of your local MP at http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/members/memberlist.asp Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1012930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekyR32 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hmm this all sounds a bit pear shaped to me. I recently sold my skylines and bought a aussie chariot. I have had not one single issue from cops. AT ALL I was looking, just yesterday at getting another modified japanese car...but now am seriously reconsidering. I honestly don't have the patience for cops, regency, ricers, defects, fines, bla bla bla. Id like to have a tuff car but its just so painful! You have to worry about it all the time, take fresh undies on every cruise, cos of cops.. ..... etc etc It seems like there are some loop holes (as with all Government laws).. with this new legislation. It is pretty ridiculous in a sense that it is becoming illegal just owning a motor vehicle.. So does this mean having a blow off valve is "undue noise" and we are going to have our cars taken away because we own a mechanical part that comes like that from factory? So what right does that leave us with as public citizens? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1013083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris32 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I agree, the penalty doesn't fit the crime - taking a car away for doing a skid is pretty harsh Might also get the assholes off the street that make owning a fast car so much tougher than owning a dungadore, or at least it will make them think twice before doing something stupid I can see the street drift scene dying off very quickly Will send off a email as well, as its a bit too harsh IMHO Chris Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1013158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I had a moto copper wave his finger at me a week or so ago for hitting a bit of boost in first slowly changed in to second at 35km/h and then changed in to third at 50km/h. But yer it was hitting boost in first and having my stock bov let go that made him wave his finger. For Christ sake the in-laws in the VN commodore in front of me were still accelerating harder than what I was. I've been hearing a new advert on the radio as of late. Do not tailgate. Driving in Sydney a couple of weeks ago I can see that SA drivers need a big lesson in road courtesy. I think this is why most of the tailgating occurs in Adelaide. Lack of courtesy to other drivers. Maybe the advert should include "Do not tailgate and most importantly be courteous to other drivers" Hell in Sydney if you sit in the right lane for no reason and hold up traffic people beep the horn at you. Sit at a traffic light and wait for the green arrow instead of finding a gap in the traffic and expect people to be horn happy and abuse the crap out of you. Thats one thing I don't miss about Sydney... Waking up to the sound of car horns. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1013162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I give this new law Canberra is trying to pass the thumbs up. Kids obtaining their license have to do a driving course. Thinking back to my day...... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1013165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Id like to see the first police officer who tries to enfores this law.....wont be a woman (no offence) and they wont be by themselves i reckon. Only hope it applies to those midnight ***wit drifters through the hills, and drag ricers down anzac.....now time to register my car with my cat as half owner Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51075-sa-new-hooning-laws-wtf-describe/#findComment-1013407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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