JV driving for Renault for the rest of the year?

[Roy]

hahha yeah roy how did your mate JV go today? hahahahahahaha

Not too good. At least for a short period of time he was havong a nice dual with MS. Im not surpried he didnt match his team mate, he is new to the team and has to start from scratch with engineers.

LOL, sounds like an excuse?!?...It will be different if he was a test driver for the team, hope he does a bit better in the next gp with a bit more experience with the team

RB seems to be doing well now that MS has stitched up the championship,is it possible Ferrari are actually now giving him the level of support to win races?

[martydaman]

lol, JV had some trouble with our Webber today.

MS had the worst luck, although some of it was his fault whether he is willing to admitt it or not. Spun out in qualifying, again during the race and a flat tyre forcing an extra pit stop and still managed 12th place

[Duncan]

yeah classic. the first race after MS wins the champs, Barrichelo goes on a winning spree? hell of a coincidence...

[martydaman]

lol, doubt that MS deliberately spun out twice just so RB coud win, KR did a nice job too and the 2 stop strategy paid off for Honda... are they second the the constructors now?

[Beer Baron]

Interesting thread. JV will have to do better than that if he wants a good drive. Webber had his measure in an inferior car. Forgetting JV for a second, what does that say about Webber....

Can't wait for Melbourne

Richard

[martydaman]

webber in a williams will be interesting... i think his jag really let him down this season. That gearbox of his has failed like 3 times this season. At least he did well yesterday

[Roy]

Webber had his measure in an inferior car. Forgetting JV for a second, what does that say about Webber....

Can't wait for Melbourne

Richard

It will be good. But im not expecting Williams to be a real powerhouse. They are losing two drivers, have made numerous changes inside the team this year, the cars will be more competitive then Jaguar but i suspect they will be less competitive then this year.

Next season is looking interesting, especialy if Jensen stays at BAR. Does anyone else think its suss that RB has all of a sudden showed a lot more pace, i think its more like the team are now giving him an equitable level of support or more then MS to secure him 2nd in the championship.

Not saying RB is a better driver, but suspect he isnt allowed to show his true wares with MS in the team absorbing all the focus of the team. I dont think any team mate of MS would ever win the championship.

Its sad that F1 is more about money, teams and engineers then drivers. If you look at some of the moves inside/between teams from an engineering/design level you can usually track changes in driver performance, its very rare to ses a driver change teams and bring improved performances

[relicr31act]

All bets are off next year with the wholesale changes to the rules. This usually brings some interesting changes with some teams that have struggled doing better, but is hard to see anyone going close to shuweave and the red thing. The low downforce rules should make for some interesting action and perhaps more overtaking, but I think that the revelation will be Webber in the Williams!!! Front row in Melbourne mark my words!!!

[martydaman]

lol... arnt they soposedly introducting a manual clutch rule sometime in the next few years??

[Roy]

So who isgetting the 2nd Williams seat?

Go David Coulthard (i doubt it...but who else is out there who aing going to destroy chasss and can win races)

[Beer Baron]

I would love to see DC with Webber. They better not put Pizzaboy in that other williams seat. Maybe they should hire Ryan Briscoe and go all Australian..

Who watched brazil? I recorded it and watched it last night. Talk about dissapointing... I may be a one eyed webber fan, but I'd swear that Klien just turned in on Mark and just drove straight over his front wing. Nice work f**khead. Webber seemed pretty upset by the whole thing. Oh well, I don't think we'll ever be seeing Klien in an F1 car again, except maybe on a test track, testing for minardi. ha ha ha

So who is going to Melb GP? I'm definately going as 05 may be the last year we see V10 engines in f1 cars, gotta hear them one last time Plus Webbers debut for williams will be a special day. Thinking this time I'll go for the Jones stand.

Richard

[martydaman]

yea ill probably go. I have some friends who are aching to see Webber in a williams and should be intersting to see how webber drives a BMW.

[Beer Baron]

yea ill probably go. I have some friends who are aching to see Webber in a williams and should be intersting to see how webber drives a BMW.

probably??? Mate, how can you live in Melbourne and not go? :slap:

it's doing my head in just thinking about it...

Seriously, don't miss it.

Richard

[fatz]

yea i might go in one of the drinking stands

[Silver-Arrowz]

If missus comes in from the US then I'll take her there.

Hopefully she doesn't find out about my drinking problem.

[Roy]

I can put up a few of the Team Trackday guys of you want a free place to stay. I live on Fully sik Lygon Street abotu 3-5 kms out of the city. Ill be there for sure, wnt to watch JV win Saubers first GP:) (Only if Weber doesnt get up)

[martydaman]

lol... i want to see webber on a podium for once. He can do it in a williams

[Beer Baron]

Fatz: which stand you going to go in for? in '02 I had tickets for the schui stand, but spent half the race on the inside of turn1 standing next to the stand there. So I thought, stuff buying stand tickets next time i'll buy General admin tickets and stand at the same spot, BUT I couldn't get in there this year which was f$cked, so this year I'll spend the extra few hundred and go for either jones, or brabham tickets. Or does anyone who's been there more times than me know what the 'gun' spot to watch at albert park is?

Silver: bringing your old lady could cause some grief me thinks. I've always just gone with the lads, but I'm taking my girlfriend this year too as she wants to hear a V10 screaming at 19 000 rpm before they change the rules to V8 power (hmm is power the right word?...)

Roy: Lygon street IS full sick uleh! I'll probably getting some ticket/accom/flight package but that's very generous of you (and I reckon I'd qualify as team trackday having co-organised one you attended! ) A webber podium will be good enough for me, but nothing brings the crowds to lygon street like a good ol' ferrari victory. 2002 was awesome with webber getting points and a ferrari win, the place went nuts after the race.

[Roy]

For the sake of my sanity then I hope those red cars blow up and ill drive up and down Lygon parading the Australian Flag, the Union Jack and the German Flag. Just to show support for all associated with Williams:)

[Beer Baron]

ha ha, you'll get a 'warm' reception then... Mate, you've been surprisingly quiet on the webber/klien incident. tell me what I want to hear... it was kliens fault, wasn't it?