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V-mounting intercooler

redline2003

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funkymonkey Grand Master

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hehe would push the intercooler into the engine.... its real tight in a skyline enginebay as it is. with an SR conversion it'd be awesome, but I don't see many advantages in a skyline engine bay with an RB. real estate front to back is real tight in one of those. Didn't really think about the heat rising from the radiator...

Ive been a fan of the open V mount... ie radiator vertical behind the intercooler which is on an angle with a bonnet vent... but the V mount on the R31 is interesting... for race use only I guess.

If you wanted to be a real tricky dicky you'd make the whole thing out of flexible piping and mount some servo's to move the radiator and Intercooler from vertical to V mount according tot he speed you were goin at... :D hmmm now there's an idea...

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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If you wanted to be a real tricky dicky you'd make the whole thing out of flexible piping and mount some servo's to move the radiator and Intercooler from vertical to V mount according tot he speed you were goin at... :D hmmm now there's an idea...

LoL all the gain you got from the shoter pipes etc, you would lose in tricky electronic gear :P

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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what if you leave the radiator as is and mount the ic on top of the engine(possibly a sm but thicker radiator to compensate that way the fans can still suck air through the radiator and pull air through the intercoller, best of both worlds?

K

Like a subaru?

aybee Experienced

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Yep, but the hot air comes up from the radiator and goes through the intercooler and out the bonnet (ie; hot air rises) On its way though the hot air heats up the intercooler.  That never happens with a FMIC, the radiator is behind the intercooler and the engine or electric fan sucks the hot air from the radiator, away from the intercooler.

In a > mount in traffic or stationary, the intercooler will quickly get to 90 degrees, which is the temperature of the air coming out of the radiator.  It will cool down once you get moving, that why it is an OK setup in a race car.  But a waste of time and money in a road car.

Oh and you should see the damage if you have a slight front end tap, makes a real effenn mess. :D

but at idle the turbo is not running any boost. so it wouldnt really matter would it? as soon as you start moving the superior air flow would cool it down pretty quickly. wouldnt it?

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Sydneykid Grand Master

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but at idle the turbo is not running any boost. so it wouldnt really matter would it? as soon as you start moving the superior air flow would cool it down pretty quickly. wouldnt it?

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Ahh no, the intercooler is still hot, so it heats up the air going through it. Until it cools down, maybe 2 to 10 seconds depending on speed and ambient air temp. :D

Craved Grand Master

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This is what i'll be running in the lancer project im working on ATM, however the is no reason that the intake itself cannot be partitioned right from the intake itself, running a thermo fan on both the radiator and the intercooler! separate intake ans thermo's fresh air at any speed to both cooling devices!

OH and whats wrong with running the radiator at the top to stop further heat soak????

i will be keeping an eye on this thread for sure!

GTR-NUTTER - that would defeat the purpose.. they want separate intakes for both devices, so a conventional IC with horizontal radiator would still be heated by the IC before the rad!

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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OH and whats wrong with running the radiator at the top to stop further heat soak????

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I guess because that kills the idea of having shorter piping???

Which brings me to my next question, does taking out that little amount of piping have that much effect???

Craved Grand Master

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that could be true, but it would depend on what engine the car was using! if say it was a front facing plenum then the IC on top wouldn't really affect the pipe length compared to below....

however a standard rb25 inlet manifold would best be used with the IC on top, this i pressume wouldn't be the case if going to the length of ">" mounting these coolers!

better response from throttle on/off, and minimal chance of heat soaking the pipes (not an issue really within the pipes only IC core)

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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But if you have the money to throw around on > mounting stuff, then you probably have the money for better forward facing plenums, and internals, and turbos, etc etc :mad: Either that or WAYYYY tooo much time on your hands.

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