TEAMSHADOW Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 hi peeps, im full on new to the skyline scene...actually i havent even started yet but im a huge fan of skylines, especially the r34... anyways, im still on my l's, and seeing how im soon to get my red p's...i was hoping i would be able to get me a skyline r34 for my first car... here is where the problem begins... my dad is willing to get me a car...around the budget of 40-50k but he is unwilling to get me a skyline r34 for 37k he tells me that second hand cars will need constant maintenance after several years he also said that insurance will be very very expensive...i was thinking of 'just car' insurance, but he says something is wrong with it...there has to be a catch sumwhere... can u help me win my dad over? give me sum strong arguement points to get him to change his stubborn view...cos i have tried to compromise with him heaps of times...and everytime turns to arguing...i want to shut him up and agree that the skyline really is a good car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESW Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 ahh lets see where to start... no you shouldnt get a skyline as a first car... especially a r34. James. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceline Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 definatly agree. R34 in un experianced hands NOT a good idea. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crack Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 :werd: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackfink Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 "shut him up and agree that the skyline really is a good car" Youre right. the skyline is a really good car. hence we would prefer as many to stay on the road not in wreckers yards, which as a first car many do end up. not trying to judge ya... but the history isn't good. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R324D Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 As mentioned above, yes the Skyline is a great car, no you have NO CHANCE in getting cheap insurance and before you keep argueing with your dad you should give Just Cars a call and get a sample quote, I think this will be enough to turn both you and your dad off. Just remember he is also thinking of your best interests... Yes they insure modified cars and are open to young drivers, but they will hit you in the pocket for it. Also, why not think about getting something to learn on and build your way up to owning a Skyline or performance car, I know it isn't what you want to hear but I would hate to be reading about you in the papers... Man, I think I went all Dr Phil on him Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
croat Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 I bought a r33 gtst as my first car. although it assisted me in getting a bad driving record i thankfully had no accidents (touch wood) up to date. I dont think it is a bad thing getting a skyline as a first car, i am sure many people on these forums had it as a first. Just be sensible on the roads and take care of your car which will in return take care of you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuiE Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 get me a skyline r34 for my first car...here is where the problem begins... my dad is willing to get me a car...around the budget of 40-50k but he is unwilling to get me a skyline r34 for 37k You should be spending $5k max of YOUR OWN money on a first car, $40-50k of daddy's money will only make people hate you. Get an R31 and wait 'till you're a bit older for a 34, an R31 has plenty of power for a P Plater. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A® Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Anyway, from all the skylines, the R34 would be ideal. Traction control being one of the advantages. If you are going to be reckless, you can still do it in a beat up R31. Im just guessing that you might be an international student? If you are, I know of many that has started with expensive cars. One guy went from a lancer Gli which he drove for 6 months to the current series M3. If you arent, it doesn matter. Pretty hard to arque with dad, when he is going to be paying for it! Best bet is to take him car shopping. Reminds me of a friend of mine who wanted a WRX but dad wouldnt get it because of the quality issues he had set in his mind. Purchased a honda instead. Choose a good condition R34 if you are really going to purchase one. Make sure the condition is tip top and kms genunine and low if possible. That will atleast help with having low maintainance issues. Insurance??........... well, that I cant help... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2000 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 if its a NA 34 i have no big issue with that, stay away from turbos for a while though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2000 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 insurance will definately be i big sting but it looks like money's no a huge concern with a budget of 50g where you could pick up a 34 Gt for 30ish (i think) advanced driving course straight away and respect your car, if you wanna do burnouts and carry on like a goon get an 80's shitbox and have all the fun and fines that you need Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewid Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Geezus - just buy an NA Silvia if your so keen to get into the import scene. Then in a few years graduate to a nice turbo car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshima Screamer Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 my advice is more or less what the other blokes said , get a run around explore your limits save the 40k and in a few years add your 2 cents and you never know you might be able to afford GTR R34 if thats you want. have to crawl before you walk, life is a lesson and thats my 2 cents. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Yeah an R34 will end you up in all sorts of trouble...I managed that with an N/A R34...but have become a bit more sedate with the turbo now Insurance for you will be insanely expensive...as for you Dads comments on Just Cars, they are about the only insurance company that'll cover you for an agreed value AND most importantly NOT try to screw you over in a claim...providing you're truthful with all you details + mods, they will back you the whole way. I've had nothing but excellent dealings with them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jake Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 No. Just... no... - J. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 hi peeps, im full on new to the skyline scene...actually i havent even started yetbut im a huge fan of skylines, especially the r34... anyways, im still on my l's, and seeing how im soon to get my red p's...i was hoping i would be able to get me a skyline r34 for my first car... here is where the problem begins... my dad is willing to get me a car...around the budget of 40-50k but he is unwilling to get me a skyline r34 for 37k he tells me that second hand cars will need constant maintenance after several years he also said that insurance will be very very expensive...i was thinking of 'just car' insurance, but he says something is wrong with it...there has to be a catch sumwhere... can u help me win my dad over? give me sum strong arguement points to get him to change his stubborn view...cos i have tried to compromise with him heaps of times...and everytime turns to arguing...i want to shut him up and agree that the skyline really is a good car If your dad buys you a turbocharged vehicle for your first car let alone a skyline he is extremely irresponsible. You and BACKUP would get on like a house on fire Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 or Krzysiu I'm banning my kids from having anything faster than 50kw until they're off their p's.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Geezus - just buy an NA Silvia if your so keen to get into the import scene. Then in a few years graduate to a nice turbo car. WERD!!! R34 is a big car.. skylines are a handfull.. Graduate to a r34.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Go check out some threads by Mines Datsun, that's should convince you not to have your Dad buy you turbocharged cars!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/51664-major-dilemma/#findComment-1021969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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