RB25 or RB20

[killabeez_1985]

I wanna buy a N/A skyline and i only have 15 grand to spend , i was looking at a 96 model R33 with a RB20 ... I took it for a drive and it didnt have much guts.

So cutting to the chase , i just wanna know how much power the R33 RB20 has at the wheels and how much the R33 RB25 has at the wheels.

Stock figures would be appreciated.

[killabeez_1985]

I just found out that the RB20E has only 94kw at the engine , so im definately not gonna buy one of them ....

Would i get an R33 GTS25 for 15 grand or less?

[Kor'axis]

yeah i got my s1 94 r33 stock as a rock for just under 14k and if you look hard enough, you could probably find a turbo for the same price... serious

[scottman]

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/?/au/...sp?StockID=2588

thank me later Import one for sure make some money on it too

[killabeez_1985]

Well im 99% sure that I cant import that R33 Scottman Because in accordance with the 15 year rule i cant import it before 2008.

So no thanks going ur way

[Greg]

heard of compliance?

series I r33 gts25's (before mid 1995) sell for about $15,000 max

[killabeez_1985]

But u cant comply an import under 15 years can you?

I thought you couldnt import anything to drive on the road (registered) that was younger than 15 years.

[Greg]

how do you think the '96 R33 that you drove was registered?

There are more relaxed rules for imports over 15 years old. Compliance is a lot simpler and there are no restrictions on what can be imported.

Recent changes in import legislation mean that it is now a lot harder to comply vehicles that do not fall into the over 15 year category. However, it is possible, and depends on whether an importer holds compliance plates for the vehicle in question. So if you are looking at importing a vehicle, the first thing to do would be to investigate who (if anyone) holds compliance plates for that model. I know Sport and Luxury Cars in ferntree gully (VIC) holds compliance plates for R34, not sure on R33. Another importer to check out is Ultimate Performance Imports, also in VIC. I realise that you are in NSW.

That is my understanding of the current import legislation anyway. Hope it helps

Definitely don't get a RB20, whatever you do.

[Greg]

oh and actually answering your question, RB25 generally has about 90-100kw @ the wheels stock.

stock RB20 not sure but I saw funkymonkey's RB20 with extractors, exhaust, pod make 87 kw @ the wheels.

rb20 is not powerful enough to move r33 boats along.

[zymotic]

I thought that NA33's could not be complied under SEVS because they don't meet the power to weight ratio requirements? Can't check that cause the sites caput.

KillaBeez that car linked to could be a good choice auction grade 4 is good for a car that old. It would be on the road and rego for less than $15,000.

[Pva_Glue]

I thought that NA33's could not be complied under SEVS because they don't meet the power to weight ratio requirements? Can't check that cause the sites caput.

really??? why?? cuz its soo powerful :bs!:

or

because its too heavy????

[zymotic]

Because it's not powerful enough!

Cars have to meet a certain power to weight ratio amongst other criteria in order to qualify under SEVS. I thought that an NA33 would not make the cut but due to it being on Geoffs site, I don't think he'd have it there if it wasn't.

It was a question not a statement. Pitty I can't check it out atm.

EDIT: MMMKay I'm wrong R33GTS non turbo are on the list :Oops:

[killabeez_1985]

Ok well if i can get an R33 with a RB25 for under 15 grand imported ill do that for sure , i have been telling all mu friends lies about the 15 year rule if that is the case .. woops.

I just assumed the 96 model i drove was imported before the legistlation came in.

[killabeez_1985]

Yeah thanx guys for ur help its changed my mind aboout buying one in australia , ill prob import one now , if i can get it in.

If anyone has a good importer that they have imported an R33 non turbo through and has had good experience with them then id love to know.

[zymotic]

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/st...sp?StockID=2588 as posted above.

The auction grade is 4 which means that the car has not been in any accidents beforehand - many imports have previous accident history. You will have to add another $2,000 for rego, tyres and stamp duty to the price he uses on his cars, similar with J-Spec.

Geoff Risby http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au is who i imported mine thru and many other people on this forum will also recommend him. Another popular mob is http://www.j-spec.com.au

[LiQuid IcE]

I thought that NA33's could not be complied under SEVS because they don't meet the power to weight ratio requirements?

yeh i've also heard that under the new regulations you cant bring non-turbo R33's etc... only turbo... doesnt make sense to me either but I'm pretty sure thats correct.

Back to the question though... for $15 000 you can get a pretty decent car these days...

[killabeez_1985]

Sweet as. i am now on the search for an import. i might end up getting a R32 gts-t

I didnt wanna get one because they are so ugly when they have no exterior mods.

But if i can get an R32 turbo for like 12 grand then ill spend the other 3 grand on making it look pretty

[Greg]

R32 gtst would be a smart buy. Go turbo if you can afford it, or you'll regret it once you want power, and of course sucking noises.

I'm going to rely on my memory and contradict everyone here: R33 GTS25's are eligible under the SEVS scheme in that they exceed the power to weight minimum. However, the market may consider importing one not worth the import and compliance costs, implying that R33 GTS25's would not be imported under the SEVS scheme, althought they are potentially eligible.

Non-turbo silvia's and RB20 R32's do not meet power to weight minimum, from memory.

-Greg

[zymotic]

Yea so 33GTS must just be over that threshold i reakon. Must have been getting confused with the 32GTS or maybe the 33GTS - 2L version.

I guess for the purposes of compliance there really aren't any difs between compliancing a GTS and a GTST, from what I understand of the process anyway.

[raz0r$harP.UK]

go for the 32 gtst

if you are going for an 89 model there ae a few coming in with rb25det and big turbos which would fly... i got my r32 gtst through geoff and it looks killer and has power mods as well