R33 GTR Series diffences

[pimpspec]

What exactly are the differences between the different series of a r33 gtr?? Are there any?

If there is a thread on this already can you please point me in the right direction ...

thanks.

[wrxhoon]

there is not much diff , headlights s1 black , s2 chrome ,s 3 xenon , all h/lights will fit all cars s3 are slightly different at the rear where they bolt on , they dont have the extensions .

steering wheels are different in s1 , s2 + 3 are the same but not 100% sure ( we have a s1 + s 3 we dont have a s 2 ) . the seats are different colour on s 3 ( red instead of blue and the grey is darker as well .

the head unit suround is diff on s3 texture and its got like a buuble .

all s 2+ 3 have 2 airbags as far as i know , some s 1 have 2 bags ( all purple that i've seen ) but most have 1 .

s 3 fuse box has gtr on it .

s3 lower lip is different to s1+2 and s 3 has a rear foglight + only 1 reverse light .

i cant think of anything else at the minute , ah red stiching on the steering on s 3 is another .

s1 jan 95 , s2 jan 96 +s3 beb 97

if you want to know anymore let me know especialy s1 +3

[YO880]

S3 has red trim behind the perforations on the doors as well (S2,S1 has blue)

S3 has N1 holes in the front bumper

i think S3 may also have the bonnet diffuser (?)

then of course there is the differences in GTR's and GTR V-Spec's across all series.

ATTESA pro (rear fins on the rear differential)

lower suspension

oh, then there is the N1 versions they have no A/C or Stereo, bigger turbo's, oil cooler, diff cooler (?), N1 slots in bumper

[Evo_Lee]

can someone tell me what series is the JN1GAPR33? shutup Justin...

[YO880]

that doesn't sound like anything to me?!!

i doubt the N1 VIN would be too far off the BNCR33

not sure what it would be though.. anyone?

[Evo_Lee]

looks weird doesn't it...but I would like to see if anyone knows before I said what it is...also because I have only seen it printed in one Japanese magazine.

[YO880]

autech or nismo R33? though i would think that they would have to keep the same VIN as the standard car (though i guess they could be classed as car manufacturers as is HSV)

look forward to finding out

[Evo_Lee]

so nobody on this forum knows? yikes!

[Burto]

What is the actual question? Well i have one... how many genuine R33 N1s were made? No one has been able to tell me.

[d1-monkeh-]

d1-monkeh - that sort of language isn't appreciated on SAU!

[Evo_Lee]

What is the actual question?  Well i have one... how many genuine R33 N1s were made?  No one has been able to tell me.

Can tell you tonight when I check, else Rezz may have the data for that.

Another question...how many R33 VSpec LM limited made

[YO880]

Burto,

what are all the differences between the N1's and the Vspec/Non-vspec

and also what sort of format is the VIN in?

[knore]

What is the actual question?  Well i have one... how many genuine R33 N1s were made?  No one has been able to tell me.

Where did you find the N1 and how much? :wassup:

R33 N1s are so rare

[Burto]

VIN is pretty much the same as a normal GTR but obviously corresponds to an N1, my VIN is BCNR33005923 which corresponds to a White 1995 V-spec N1. As for the differences they've been covered before, its bloody hard to search as the engine doesn't like looking for little words like N1. Theres a lot of different information going round too but the main things are:

R33 N1 based on the V-spec model except:

Interior: No air con (button replaced with a blank cover), no radio, less sound deadening, the little button on the drivers door that unlocks the far side is blanked out too, the doors have room for speakers etc but they aren't installed.

Exterior: Blanking plug where antenna should be (mine has the antenna put back on (AND DOESN"T WORK!!), front and rear CF diffusers, CF rear blade, suspension and ATTESA is apparently upgraded but i haven't been able to find any info on this

Engine:

N1 turbos (steel wheel)

Upgraded ECU (Mine came with a Mines)

Slightly stronger pistons etc, guy told me he's seen the N1 block handle up near 1200hp with forged internals

Massive oil cooler on the front, uprated oil system.

Block has the number 24U instead of 5U

Performance: Puts out around 250kw standard.

Theres an article on an N1 in one of the HPI GTR specials. Also if you search for "N1 Block" etc you should find some more info, i lost all the links when i moved over here. I'll have more info after this weekend, bought the bloody thing back in May in Japan and just when it was about to be ready for the road i moved to newcastle, driven it from the wharf and thats it!

[Burto]

Knore: Was searching the auctions at Japan for about 2 months looking for a black v-spec and having no luck, then this N1 pops up, rang up the buyer in japan and asked a few questions about it.

I knew next to nothing about them except that they were a bit beefed up, spent the day searching the net for info, got back to him that arvo and we thought we'd have a bid up to around 50G landed. To be honest we expected to have no chance but i actually got it very cheap (1.7M yen) which equates to around 38-40g on the road registered. So then of course i started worrying about WHY it had gone for that cheap. In the end we think that it was because it just had N1 in the corner of the auction sheet in english and no special mention was made about it.

There's nothing wrong with it, its mechanically sound, 80000km, i strongly doubt its been professionally raced as it has an amp and a big arse sub in the back. Ive heard different numbers regarding production 48, 150 and 500... which is why im keen to find out.

[Evo_Lee]

Burto will check for you tonight unless Rezz gets on before me.

[Burto]

Awesome thanks,

I asked Rezz a couple of months back and he said he'd keep an eye out for the info but no luck as yet.

[Evo_Lee]

Burto, don't ask another stupid question like this again...

I just spend the evening at the SA library shifting through 7 GT-R reference books, talking to my mate at SA and we are more confused now then before.

Let's start from the very beginning: 1995/01/06 - 1st BCNR33 GT-R, V-Spec and VSpec N1 (5.99Mil Yen) was sold. Then the 1st model revision occured in 1996/01/22 (V-Spec N1, price: same)...then 2nd model revision occured in 1997/02/03(V-Spec N1, price: 5.998Mil Yen)...so how many were sold you ask?...6551 units!

But most of the evening's conversation was spent talking about the BNR32 N1s which were first introduced in 1991/07/19 and sold for 4.305Mil Yen known as the GT-R N1 Race Spec...Nissan printed only 500 units made. When the GT-R had it's 1st minor revision in 1991/08/20, the N1 was still available for sale. Then when the GT-R had it's 2nd minor revision as well as the introduction of the V-Spec in 1993/02/03, the N1 was called V-Spec N1 and initially sold for the same price but a few months later according to these reference books on the 19th of August 1993 the price increased to 5.09Mil Yen due to a full model change! What exactly was different we don't know...but the V-Spec N1 continued to sell at that price when the V-Spec II was introduced in 1994/02/14. So how many N1 were sold...no f**king idea but as far as the true enthusiast are concern the true N1s were the Race Spec ones sold in 1991. Going back Nissan built only 500 Group A Version, but according to SA guys as well as the 5 of 7 reference books...only 228 were built!...perhaps it was 500 allocated cars. Similarly Nismo prints they only made 500 Nismo GT-Rs back in 1990/02/22 but the references print actually 560 were built. Guess we need to ask the people at JAF...and when I get around to it I would like to know how many Group A version were sold/registered to private owners. At 55Mil Yen...yes 55 Million Yen! I can't see too many people outlaying that much money for a fully race ready Group A car...you could built your own 500ps/55kgm GT-R for less. 500 were known to have been built and most I reckon would have been bought by the Racing Teams at the time.

Now don't ask any more silly questions

[N/A®]

there is not much diff , headlights s1 black , s2 chrome ,s 3 xenon , all h/lights will fit all cars s3 are slightly different at the rear where they bolt on , they dont have the extensions .

Dont think any GTR or GTS-T came with chrome headlights. Only 4 Door R33 Non-Turbo?!?

[V8skylineMAN]

thats what i was thinking