R33 GTS Non turbo...

[insanenissan]

Hi all,

I was thinking of buying a R33 non turbo 1995 or 96 model. What are the prices im looking at for a good condition one? Im thinking around the 15,000 mark?

And has anyone had experiance with them at all, like are they a good enough car and ok power. Im just 18 and i cant have a turbo car, so this seems like a good idea,

Thanks

[SimonR32]

very very slow, my mate has one and if your looking for performance forget it. they are a heavy car with average power.

if you like the looks go for your life, decent cars but dont expect performance from it, its just too heavy.

[zakalwe]

I think you could buy a better car than a n/a R33 for 15 large... Something newer & livelier, like an '01 or 2 Pulsar. Maybe not as special as a Skyline but more practical. There are even some Honda's, a '97 Integra can be found at 15K.

My 2c anyway!

Z

[Guest]

If you get one make sure it is manual no exceptions and you are only 18 so it is a very wise decision to go for non turbo.

Cheaper insurace and less hassles with turbos being made to go faster so you kill your self...........

People could say dont buy a GTS-t as they are slugs compared to GTR's but we dont, we dont drive GTR's because of cost to buy and insurance so use the same rule.

[ferni]

My girlfriend bought a series 2 NA auto R33... excelent condition, for 18k about a year ago.... its a very reliably car, probably about the same speed as say a holden 3.8ltre v6 (VR/VS/VT etc..) so not SLOW but not super quick...

Only thing she has spent money on is service every 5-10k 50-100$, petrol, insurance and rego...

good idea not going for a turbo car, they cost too much to maintain/mod and insurance is a killer

[paully_tee]

i got a na 33. i rekon you'll get bored of it hey. Drivin around in it looks good, but u do tend to get alotta WRX's+ other lines+ silvias+ 180sx, just abt any other sports car, wantin to drag. I got bored of my in abt 2 months. Its a great car to start with but i wouldnt be surprised if u start lookin into a turbo a couple of months after.

[Pva_Glue]

Very reliable car.. NA's make sure you look in to closely in the engin bay and under the car, for any rust and sign of damages.

also its wise to check the springs and shockies...

if you can buy GTS4 then even veter in wet

[predator]

again... very reliable car and you should have no problems. Not uber quick, but neither are most things around that price level. 145kw isn't anything to be sneezed out, but I guess as all cars get more and more powerful over the years can start looking a bit slower in comparison. The weight will be the same as any commodore, camry, or magna out there - and that is really what you should be comparing it against. It has the sporty looks, but the practicality of many of those other cars.

I would say actually $15k is the upper end, as there is not massive demand you can get a goodie for around $12k these days.

My mate got a manual GTS4 for $14k and that was about the only car that actually looked to have a *genuine* 70,000km on it or so (no scratches, no wears in any of the trims, etc). No problems whatsoever and he is very happy with it.

[insanenissan]

thanks for replying people. If i did get bored with it, couldnt i convert it to turbo later on? or would that end up costing too much?

thanks

[sammus]

you'd be better off buying a turbo in the first place. could always just turn the boost right down and pretend it's an na

and aren't all gts4's turbos? rb20det's...

as said above the gts are to be compared with falcons, commodores etc. on performance... however the skyline looks 100x better

[ferni]

Not cheap to convert to turbo, its not just as easy as wacking on a turbo, need to consider ecu, brake upgrade which generally means upgrading to 5 stud hubs, so new wheels too

[scottman]

get a Silvia really fun car

I think u cound b ok with a Turbo Silvia 2L Sr20 or get a non turbo like me As for insurances it bullshit non turbos save u money i got Quotes on Silvia Q non turbo and Silvia K Turbo differents was $30

Insurances is HIGH CAUSE it is a IMPORTED CAR not that it is Turbo

I love Sr20's there sick as I have a Mate Selling a Silvia Q club if u want me to give u his MSN or number PM me it really well looked after he just Droped a New Motor in it Same as my one Just Blue not Silver

[Goon]

and aren't all gts4's turbos? rb20det's...

the R32 Gts4 is a turbo AWD, the R33 Gts4 is a N/A AWD

[insanenissan]

im 100% sure i wanna go with a R33 even though they are become like the Commondore (Commonwhore ) I love them so much

P.S - 100$ says i crash it within a week kthx

[Ant]

If you are going for a NA, make sure you get a GTS25 and not the GTS, the 25 has the 2.5L RB25DE engine, 147kw/~200hp whereas the GTS has the RB20E with 100kw/~130hp of SOHC 2L power!

The GTS is very underpowered for the weight of the car, but the GTS25 is about on par with 6cyl Commodores (~150kw from memory) and is lighter.

The R33 GTS4 is essentially a GTS25 with 4wd, but a bit less power at the wheels due to drive train losses.

[mcnamg]

are the gts models eligible for import? i thought they fell under the power to weight ratio allowed by dotars.

therefore all the non turbo r33's you see driving round are rb25de's

get a gts4 then when you get bored of the N/A you can drop an rb26 into it for some awd tt fun

[dojobi]

I'd say most R33s on our roads today were brought in before the new scheme, so RB20E powered ones should be available. You've got to wonder why anyone would comply them though. There'd be no money in it.