Drag racing suspected in crash deaths-StKilda

[Parag0n]

Car enthusiasts also warned against a new dangerous practice known as "drifting". Popularised in Japanese motor magazines, drifting involves the driver causing the loss of rear traction around corners and holding the car in a sliding arc.

Hahaha oh shit.

[Laurence]

Hehehe, Yeah I liked that one too

LOL we should find these car enthusiasts and give them what for!

[Lukas]

What we should do is start a Official 'Wanka Spotted' Thread and list rego's and car descriptions of all the idiots we see doing stupid stuff on the road!!! LOL

[(B1) MR_fanny]

whats the point in having that really??

[Lukas]

Because there is more of us on the road than police... maybe guys might think twice if they knew 'other people were watching' and they could be listed as a big fool... just a thought of the moment Mr. Fanny.

[adznight]

"Bloody idiots, yet another reason why 18-21 y.o's should be kept out of these cars!"

i cant belive what a lot of you guys are saying, having a go at all the 18 and 21 year olds.

Yeah thats what I said and I still mean it. Fact is I've been there and done it already, you don't think I was on my P's at some stage and saw it first hand??? As a GENERAL group (not all) 18-21 y.o males are hot heads in fast cars, don't try and tell me they arn't because that utter bullsh|t. YES I do admit there may be a minority group that that are very responsible but what do you think statistics show? That 18-21 y.o's on P plates are involved in the highest amount of accidents and deaths on Australian roads!

I think the main problem is howo does one get experience in a turbo car without driving one? Kinda a catch 22 really.

I think the main point I'm trying to make is from 18-21 thats what, 3 years? Is that really too long to wait before owning or driving a high performance car? If young drivers were forced into resonably powered cars for 3 years to gain road going experience and have a few minor bingles (how many of us didn't) I'm sure that the roads would be a better place. I think it's also a case of maturity, something not many of us had a whole lot of at 18.

As for you 16-18 y.o's saying how much experience they have, go get your licence, drive for a couple of years, have an accident then come back and talk about it dont fool yourselves because you certianly dont fool anyone else.

End rant!

[Amaru]

After reading all 6 pages of this thread, Rezz is spot on the money. To own a high powered car you need to be mature. Everyone talking about experiance and how young drivers lack it, just remember, this whole event shouldnt have happened in the first place. Melbourne has dragways and circuits, if youre the owner of a high power car, make a MATURE decision to use those facilities instead of endangering your own and other peoples lives racing on the streets.

Living in Canberra, its hard to believe how many people in Melbourne take the resources availible to them (dragways and circuits) for granted and still prefer to street race. Up here, we dont have a dragway or a circuit to use, yet the only serious skyline accident in the past 12 months was when someone slid one into a pole, and that was due to oil being on the road. For anyone who participates in street drags in Melbourne, get off the road you f'ing dickhead and use the facilities the government and private companies built for you to use.

After all that however, I do have some sympathy for the people who lost their lives in this accident, such a tragic waste to see young people pass away. As for the driver, he deserves everything he gets. He made the decision to do high-speeds on public streets, he has to live with all the consequences, including hopefully being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (i think manslaughter rings a bell?)

[Mavric]

I don’t know if this is worth while but what we almost need to do is an advertising campaign which encourages safe driving for all drives especially import drivers... which may sink in coming from more the public more so than a "government organization".... This may also go over well with the police to show we are also trying to stop stupidity on the road.....

We possibly could even have meetings with police etc to discuss our views on how we feel the issue could be handled which may even cover changing laws regarding powered cars, because based on what some people have expressed in this forum on import cars and weather it be driven by p platers or a 24 year old is still hard to drive and training and maturity is the key... possibly an Advanced test needs to be taken before these cars can driven to aid saving lives instead of the current fining people which is proving useless. It seems all people do is just pay them or not even bother…

Some feedback on this suggestion would be good to hear….

[predator]

"We don't want to get the message across . . . that somehow you are impregnable, that because you do the defensive driving course, you can take risks," he told 3AW.

That is quite possible the stupidist ****ing comment I have ever heard!!! Its like saying "oh we don't want to train our commercial pilots properly because it will give them a false sense of security".. for godsakes!!

SOMEBODY GET THAT FAT TURD OUT OF THERE!

[Mavric]

Mate no joke if we had similar training to drive a car as what is done to fly an aircraft the road would be so much safer.. again of course comes down to the teacher and what not but im a pilot as well and i tell you what damn it's not easy but you respect your aircraft and you also get taught what it can and cant do....

[adznight]

Living in Canberra, its hard to believe how many people in Melbourne take the resources availible to them (dragways and circuits) for granted and still prefer to street race. Up here, we dont have a dragway or a circuit to use, yet the only serious skyline accident in the past 12 months was when someone slid one into a pole, and that was due to oil being on the road. For anyone who participates in street drags in Melbourne, get off the road you f'ing dickhead and use the facilities the government and private companies built for you to use.

Yeah thats a good point but Canberra is a lot smaller than Vic and our dragways and circuits are all out in woop woop. A perfect example is calder park. They have open drag meets on Friday nights but they start at 5:00pm. I work untill 5:30 over 100k's away so it's not really very practical but I do agree with what you said. We need a nice new drag strip in the Eastern side of Melbourne.

[Bec]

We need a nice new drag strip in the Eastern side of Melbourne.

I'll 2nd that.

[ylwgtr2]

i remeber when the people that drove fast cars actually turned the spanners themselves therefore having an idea on the mechanics of things....i beleive this plays a part in knowing when enough is enough.........And no...changing the oil yourself doesnt count

[Lukas]

I'll 2nd that.

I'll 3rd that... how about we ask the council to bulldoze Knox Ozone and build it there!!!

[RBN1]

sounds like a 4 door, 5 passenegers, r32 and r33 only have 4 seat belts

my last car (r32 GTS-T 2Door) had 5 seat belts and was registered as a 5 seater. (scary yes I know)

[adznight]

i remeber when the people that drove fast cars actually turned the spanners themselves therefore having an idea on the mechanics of things....i beleive this plays a part in knowing when enough is enough.........And no...changing the oil yourself doesnt count

Carefull Troy, dont want to sound too old mate

Kinda reminds me of streetrod!

[Bec]

I'll 3rd that... how about we ask the council to bulldoze Knox Ozone and build it there!!!

But where will I get drunk on a Monday night???? :headspin:

[Lukas]

But where will I get drunk on a Monday night????  :headspin:

hhhmmm, yeah, I didn't think of that. That would be the end of my Thursday night drinking sessions too. Need a new plan!

[Roy]

i remeber when the people that drove fast cars actually turned the spanners themselves therefore having an idea on the mechanics of things....i beleive this plays a part in knowing when enough is enough.........And no...changing the oil yourself doesnt count

I agree that a basic understanding of mechanics means that drivers are at least a little more aware of what cars can and cant do.

Sure they can accelerate, but do they appreciate how they handle, stop, turn at high speeds, and how the susp is affected by road undulations. My thinking is speeding anywhere will bring you undone, road conditions are just so variable...a friend of mines equates pedestrians and driving to a game of "frogga" - you never know where they are going to pop out from.

[OnTheBoost]

"Easily modified Japanese models such as the Honda Civic " - quote from some expert in the paper.

"silver Honda Civic"- Quote from paper artical

How can any thing they write be taken at all seriously when the car was an Accord. Once they start to get the knowen facts ill start to take a paper as more than total bu!!shit