Nightline tonight

[Sl!m]

Just saw an ad for nightline tonight on 9

Skyline got smashed in a street race two people killed

doesnt look to good!!

[silver gts-t]

saw that

car was fcuked

[ed R34]

yeah it was a " high powered nissan skyline " racing a civic...

go to the vic forums.. they have more info

apparantely 2 backseat passengers died from the skyline... big blitz fmic on the car too

here's the link .. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=52708

[T0nyGTSt]

Dark coloured 33 gts with rims, exhaust, gauges, the usual shit.

It happens. It shouldn't but idiots behind the wheel of high performance cars will drag each others, rotors, eights, sixes, fours.

T.

[wreckedhead]

not good for the driver, no way of getting out of jail for killing 2 passengers thats for sure, and aslo for racing he'll be lucky to get out of jail in the next 20 years or so. people have been drag racing for ever theres no way to police it, but hopefuly other people iell learn from this guys mistake.

[Blitz]

Jesus that car was totalled.

[Sl!m]

So now they want to enforce defensive driving

[silver gts-t]

no matter what anybody does there will always be deaths

if they want to go kill themselves goodluck

the problem is the people they take with them

[franks]

what are people's thoughts on the solution to this epidemic?

curfews?

better licensing systems?

stricter penalties?

heavier fines?

regulate car manufacturers power levels?

better signage on the roads?

i personally like how they license motorbike riders and the victorian system, ie power to weight ratio to age?

[R33vit]

power to weight also goes for cars and P platers in VIC. Doesnt mean the rules are followed.

[franks]

how do you get around it?

what happens when you get pulled over for a license check?

[R33vit]

it goes by the factory power figures. so a R32 gtst may be OK but a R33 may not. Im not to sure Franks. Its what I've been abled to gather via some other threads in here

[siksII]

defensive driver course for all learners, hammer the facts and make sure that the real risks are identified and illustrated..

i went to one a while back with a group of other people my age (p platers)most of them had ordinary sedans/hatches and were not hoons, and afterwards they had a lot better idea of what happens when u lose control by trying it in the controlled environment they gave us..

better than trying it on the road when it happens!

[franks]

i always say to myself after a trackday, "theres no point in speeding after a day like that" ... but it wears away in about 1 week

would you trust this guy???

kekkeeke

[Blitz]

Im all for power to weight restrictions Frankie

[red900ss]

what are people's thoughts on the solution to this epidemic?

curfews?

better licensing systems?

stricter penalties?

heavier fines?

regulate car manufacturers power levels?

better signage on the roads?

i personally like how they license motorbike riders and the victorian system, ie power to weight ratio to age?

Education and changing peoples' attitudes is the only way to effectivley change things. You have to change the way people think so they don't do these crazy things in the first place.

It's damn hard to change the way someone thinks when they don't want to however.

Like the old Tim and Debby joke:

"How many social workers does it take to change a light globe?"

"Only one but the light globe has to want to change."

[Roy]

This may sound a little left of field, but i think its perhaps up to banks and insurance companies to play bigger parts.

Make it far harder for ppl under the age of 21 or less then 3 years driving experience on their full licence to get a loan for an import or performance car. If the car is under finance then premiums should hit a little harder. I know this wotn be popular ...but hey:(

Now i know this isnt really fair, but as Red said attitude plays a huge part. And part of the attitude is maturity and having worked and saved for several years helps the maturing process and i believe makes ppl appreciate their cars a lot more.

At 18-19 if you can get a loan for 30k, buy a 20k R33 get it insured and mod it...then its all too easy and soem dont appreciate it.

Not saying thats the answer...but i think its something that can be considered. Driver training is great, but some leave these days feelign as though they now have the skills ot control a car but their pi55 poor attitude remains.

I think the government should buy my mate an endless supply of crap cars and he should go and prang them with passengers. His rollover with me in the car sure as sh1t confirmed that at best spirited driving is all you can get away with on the street.

Oh and make drags and other forms of motorpsort more accessible/cheaper. PPl simply dont realise how easy it is to get out and do it on the track...and unlike franks i have even les interest in going quick after a track day fix:)

[Tosh]

I wouldn't trust this bloke!!!

hehe oh hey Franky :wavey:

[MR R33]

hey im 18 and i drive a modded r33. i say that advanced driving courses would be the best, it teaches alot of the stuff that you need to know, but it still will not stop people from speeding.i am against the power to weight ratio because alot of people driving high performance cars on there p's ave not done anything wrong. it is the small amount of people that stuff it up for everyone else and give us a bad name.

[fatz]

there are 100's of ways to improve the learner system

but its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and until there are enough dollars and or public acceptance to spend those dollars it wont happen