Lap times - GTST vs GTR

[GTRgeoff]

Awwww Emre. Just confirming why I'm saving some hard earned for the FC Datalogit. Bugger the hand controller. I want to fiddle properly.

[INASNT]

PMSL...  

 

Have you been a good boy...?

 

I'm shocked to say, my water temps reached as high as 117 degrees on the weekend. Oil temps were as high as 125 degrees.

The PowerFc has protection against higher temperatures, built in. For example, if the water temperature goes above 90 degrees, it starts taking ignition out progressively, as much as 5 degrees at 110 degrees. Same deal for intake temperatures.

Thats preety sweet emre!!

Did you have a laptop in the car with you on sunday?

[Roy]

RB20 ...POWAH!!!!! :wassup:

A comfortable 222rwkws....umm not quite as much as i hoped or enough to keep up with GTRs in a straight line but ill still take 2:1 that i get into the 1:50s at PI:whackit:

LOL...or NOT:(

[benjiman74]

lol - sorry mate, Roy vs Roy doesn't attract 2:1 let alone even money! The bet was with respect to the gtr vs gtst lap time debate (as the title of this thread suggests). You're making the same power as the gtr in question and you're 1/4 tonne better off. You're not back pedalling are you?

Great to hear your cars on the mend though, good luck, I hope you reach your goal.

[Roy]

Ok so which GTR do i have to keep up with?

Scotsman, sh1t i think his pedalling prowess is ahead of mine but in the interest of a bit of fun ill wager a case of Crownies/Hahn Premium etc. The winner can sit down with the loser and gloat while we all enjoy a beer.

Out of interest ... what are peoples thoughts on what respective cars actually weigh? I have read kerb weight of the R32 GTST is 1270kg for an 89 manual. Apparantly 92 model isd 15kgs heavier.

So what is kerb weight...no passengers or luggage? Does it include fluids? Iff my car comes in under 1400kgs with driver, fuel and fluids then im happy. What do R33 GTRs weigh with driver fuel and fluids...1650?

If anyone is interested in a bit of a play, there is a weekend at PI coming up

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=54659

[benjiman74]

That said if you give a GTST the same power as a GTR then i dont think there is much in it at all.

the gtr with same power mate! But yeah to keep some interest a case of crownies sounds good, I'm sure you'll be able to explain your newfound fear of the R to me over a decent dribbling session.

[benjiman74]

Out of interest ... what are peoples thoughts on what respective cars actually weigh?  I have read kerb weight of the R32 GTST is 1270kg for an 89 manual. Apparantly 92 model isd 15kgs heavier.  

So what is kerb weight...no passengers or luggage?  Does it include fluids? Iff my car comes in under 1400kgs with driver, fuel and fluids then im happy.  What do R33 GTRs weigh with driver fuel and fluids...1650?[/url]

i think an r33 gtr vspec is around 1560kg dry, so add fuel @ 50kg, my overweight butt @ 85kg and other fluids it'd be over 1700kg's. No wonder the brakes don't last long!

[Roy]

the gtr with same power mate!  ...  

If he only has 220rwks then ill smash him. GTRs are overweight barges which carry around a 4wd system it never uses:(

:upurs:

[Emre]

Did you have a laptop in the car with you on sunday?

Yep, had it sitting in front of the rear seat, wedged behind the front passenger seat.

Out of interest ... what are peoples thoughts on what respective cars actually weigh?

R33 GTR on a weighbridge with a 1/3 tank of petrol, no driver.

My race weight with a full tank is damn close to 1700 kgs.

[Roy]

Yeh id be surprised if i came in under 1450, id love to be under 1400.

LOL...im sitting here looking at my dyno, 84rwkws at 4,000rpm...what an animal:(

[fatz]

hr31 with a gtr motor weighs in at 1480kg... no driver

[Emre]

hr31 with a gtr motor weighs in at 1480kg... no driver

Fark me... That's a heavy loaf of bread !

[INASNT]

Yeh id be surprised if i came in under 1450, id love to be under 1400.

LOL...im sitting here looking at my dyno, 84rwkws at 4,000rpm...what an animal:(

lol, thats more lag than mine with the GT30.

Can you post up the graph?

[Roy]

LOL…yeh but it has 180rwkws at 4,600rpm…and 216rwkws at 5,500rpm so it keeps me happy

Just thought of the reason why NSW GTRs are so much slower. You see its to do with SBS:) (Its been a while since GTR owners have had a panic attack over SBS….muahahahaha)

[GTRgeoff]

So they keep their corner speeds down. Maybe oil works better in Vic as I'm yet to hear of a GTR lunching itself. God lets not go back there.

I reckon with that power delivery mate you'll be feathering the throttle to keep the rear from lighting up out of turn 2,4 and 8.

Can't see why you needed 17psi for that power though. I thought you had a real turbo. Mine came in at 15psi and you know how fat the power curve is. RB25 wins.

[Roy]

Nah coming onto boost in 2nd it gets the power down, no wheelspin

When I tried launching it and grabbing 2nd it moved around a bit in 2nd, but axle tramped a little bit, so I dont think ill be going to Calder tonight…might have to go tho the family do instead:(

[GTRgeoff]

I'm off to Traralgon Sat for the night so have to ring Emre to see if he's on for a barbie.

[Sydneykid]

My own 1990 R32 GTST weighs 1,240 kgs, 1/3 tank without driver. It has;

No aircon

No spare wheel

No tools

No HICAS

No stereo or speakers

No Rear seats or seat belts

GTR Bonnett, front bar, skirts, rear spoilers

GTR Intercooler (Roy knows it well)

Oil cooler & remote filter

Speedy Hollow Type R's 17 X 8's with 245/45/17 A032R's (not light weight)

OMP driver seat (not a light one) with 6 point harness

Jamex steering wheel & gear knob

Big adj stabiliser bars (much heavier than standard)

The Stagea weighs 1658 kgs, no fuel and without driver, so I no complain about about GTR's being heavy. :birdie:

[Emre]

Just thought of the reason why NSW GTRs are so much slower. You see its to do with SBS:) (Its been a while since GTR owners have had a panic attack over SBS….muahahahaha)

We don't watch SBS much.

I'll take a guess and say it stands for Sump Baffle Syndrome ...???

I'm off to Traralgon Sat for the night so have to ring Emre to see if he's on for a barbie.

Give me a holler mate.

[Duncan]

hr31 with a gtr motor weighs in at 1480kg... no driver

it did have 4 wheels and tyres on board that I was too lazy to remove, so 50kg lighter than that

SK, GTST lap times around the Island?

Roy, at the same power and similar tyres the GTST will be quicker....I'll buy you a case of beer if you shut them up lol.

And the reason SBS hasn't struck Vic yet is that you have been lucky....it will....