performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 im looking into getting an apexi power fc and commander for my r33 gtst. Just wondereing if any one could give me some tips on what else I should be doing if I install it. (ie- air flow meter, tuning etc) also an estimate on the price for this system and some links to some suppliers would be great. :werd: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The single and MOST important investment to make at the same time - a dyno tune by someone that has experience with PFCs - even better if they have a Datalogit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVDAGTR Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I have a Power FC in my r33 GTR w/ hand controller. It's just a plug and play system. No additional wiring has to be done. In my Opinion they are a top choice. The Power FC is about 1500, the hand controller about 600. Noting has too be changed (e.g Airflow meters). Something that i think is also great is the boost controler for it. it can be adjusted with the hand controller and ur boost lever can be moitored with the hand con/. Like Gav said its best if the Power FC is installed and Dyno d as son as posible. http://www.apexi.com.au/ UAS have some prices Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Or go Wolf plug in for 1395 inc boost control and the choice of a MAP sensor. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 www.wolfems.com.au Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The Power FC is about 1500, the hand controller about 600.Try ~$1,500 delivered from Japan (with the hand controller too).Very good bang for buck. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtst25 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I just ordered a new apexi pfc/hand controller with electronic boost control solonoid for 1520 AUD delivered. Worth having a look at www.nengun.com if you're looking for a computer. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Thanx for the responses. I have managed to track one down for $1300 (brand new with 12 month warranty) with commander- it is in english format and ready to be shipped. Is this a good deal? I found it through an advertisement in SAU - here is the site for anyone that is interested. www.JapaneseImportParts.com Has any one heard of these guys? Are they reputable? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Does this mean i wouldnt need a boost control or boost gauge? Do I need anything else apart from the PFC and commander for boosting? Something that i think is also great is the boost controler for it. it can be adjusted with the hand controller and ur boost lever can be moitored with the hand con/. Like Gav said its best if the Power FC is installed and Dyno d as son as posible. http://www.apexi.com.au/ UAS have some prices Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Do I need anything else apart from the PFC and commander for boosting?Just a boost controller, don't skimp $$ on the boost controller though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtst25 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 1016AUD for a apexipfc+handcontroller new from nengun Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 If customs dont get it your fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 If customs dont get it your fine.I remember reading on here about 3mths ago that Mr Nengun himself said that replacement ECU's are classed as "(something)" which doesn't incur any import taxes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 1016AUD for a apexipfc+handcontroller new from nengun do these come with japanese or english text?? i would prefer english. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Just a boost controller, don't skimp $$ on the boost controller though. can anyone advise me on a good boost control for this system? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 I have a Power FC in my r33 GTR w/ hand controller. It's just a plug and play system. No additional wiring has to be done. In my Opinion they are a top choice. The Power FC is about 1500, the hand controller about 600. Noting has too be changed (e.g Airflow meters).dosnt the gtr have different AFM to the gtst? If so, would I have to change my AFM on the gtst(r33)?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birnie Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Make sure you buy one and quote your make and model of car. THEY ARE CAR SPECIFIC. He would have one specifically for the R33 GTR as i have a different one for my R33 GTS-T. They are NOT interchangable so as long as you order the one for your car, you will be fine. www.nengun.com has been used by heaps of people on these forums, do a search and you will see. Very cheap and comes with warranty. No offence, but you sound like a bit of a newby (me too) so i wouldn't bother with an electronic boost controller just yet. But hey, if your cashed up, go for it. My goal at the moment is to have the Power FC installed and tuned with the front mount intercooler, a bleeder-boost-controller set to 11psi and my current exhause mods. Very common setup. Go for that. Probably very close to the 200 rwkws. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 I am aware that they are car specific-thnx. Yeh - im fairly new to modifying performance cars. Ive actually got a gtst, bought it about 7 months ago totally stock except for the rims. mods so far - turbo back stainless 3" with highflow stainless cat and 4.5" canon - hks pod filter - hks sequential BOV - front strut brace - ebc bluestuffs(fr & bck) - timer. Ive got a front mount ready to go on but I would like to install the power fc and boost control (I beleive when you lift the boost it is recommended to upgrade the head gasket also- is that so?) and oil catch tank all at the same time as well as tuning. Be good to get the dyno result! Later on I'll upgrade the turbo, injectors, fuel pump, oil cooler, coil overs, bars/bushes then maybe I'll do the internals. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birnie Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 There's no reason you can't do the front mount straight away. Grab a bleeder valve fro $100 and do that whenever aswell. Just make sure you install and tune the FC last, or at least at the same time as everything else. Because the first time you install it you will be up for a $400-$600 tune, not advised to drive it without it being tuned. If you LATER install the FC and or Boost ctrl, you will need to get it dyno tuned again. My Power FC is currently collecting dust under the bed untill i get the front mount done. Literally! Gotta get my act together Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 mods so far - turbo back stainless 3" with highflow stainless cat and 4.5" canon Do your front/dump pipes before the PowerFC. (I beleive when you lift the boost it is recommended to upgrade the head gasket also- is that so?)Certainly incorrect. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/54302-upgrading-to-power-fc-need-advise/#findComment-1064531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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