Legal Drag Strips: Victoria says its unlikely

[SS8_Gohan]

where are all these places anyway?? As in what suburbs??

[riggaP]

Calder is in Calder and Heathcote is in Heathcote

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[predator]

people are lazy, people are tightasses, and the majority of import car owners these days can barely afford $50 petrol a week because they are still living at home.. and can barely afford the car working at whatever shit-kicker job they are doing - so their only excitment in life comes from doing things illegal to get away from mum and dad.

Things will never change

[riggaP]

people are lazy, people are tightasses

:werd: That really is the bottom line :uh-huh:

[martydaman]

F*ck the night curfew for P Platers! Proven to reduce the number of deaths?? I think also heard that if they ban everyone from driving their cars, any time of the day/week, this will also reduce the number of car deaths - It's such backwards, draconian thinking to bring out a curfew - government sponsored or subsidised education is the only way, and that goes to all drivers.

I dont see how the police could enforce a night curfew. I dont think its right but im sure that most poeple would just take off their P plates if they were determined to go somewhere.

In regards to illegal street racing, those who participate in it are hardly going to drop it because of some curfew... they break dozens of laws just to do it... what is one more law to them??

Driver education is an essential but somewhat reluctant step for the governmnet. They wont admitt it but driver education will save more lives in the long term than any cerfew... and because there are no statistics to back up the claim, they dont see it as an option.

[VLS_BACK]

had a few mates go to that drag racing assosiation meeting a few weeks back word is from a few guys that r good mates with bob jane or what ever da khunts name is... AVJENNINGS have the title for calder park under there name and its gona be closed down next year... planning to knock it down and build there..

so it only leaves heathcote for all of victoria to race at.. great....

they dont get it do they.. it was bad enough calder was in the worst possible shape of its whole life. but now its closing down next year...

alot of people gonna be racing on da street.. and alot of people r gonn aget hurt/die.. no one else to blaim but da government for not stepping in and saying hey.. lets give a certain amount of funding to promote safe off street racing.. i mean.. im more then willing to pay the 50 dollar fee every friday nite

as long as both time boards r working.. theres no 30cm deep ditchs.. and rocks every where which tend be sucked in threw turbos..

i mite be a wog.. i mite drive a VL.. but fark i want a decent place to race my car to see what it can do...

[Roy]

So Calder is closing? 100% I didnt think old Bob Jane would let that happen?

Oh well PI is getting big money spent on it, if you like sailing you have to go the water, if you like parachuting you have to go to the aerodrome, if you liek motorsport, you have to go to where the facilities are.

If Calder is closng down, whats the reason, financial? Isnt that a shame...if all the so called "enthusiasts" (not u VLS_bak...ppl in general) supported the facilities with their participation and attendance then things may have been different:(

[VLS_BACK]

yeh well i go there atleast once every 2-3 weeks

if im racing or just watching a mate.. the passed 2 years tho time boards have been down... the track has shit it self.. the road leading off the track is just farked.. i think they stopped caring... and im gussing avjennings came up with a killer offer they couldnt refuse..

[(B1) MR_fanny]

Unfortunately the idiot street racer culture is so ingrained that people will drive from Epping to Dandenong for the illegal drags on a friday night because it is cool, when Calder is so close.

yeah thats soo true, forgot about that. totally agree with the lazy tightass hero thingy. its that mindset of why pay for somthing when u can do it for free. maybe the gov should do something with mcdonalds where for every 5 meals you by u get a free run at calder or heathcote:D

[predator]

"free drag race with every McHappy meal"

If that is the case, unfortunately the two go hand in hand, soon as u build a strip remotely near anywhere, in 10 years all the houses close in, people bitch and whinge who are now "locals" and that simply becomes "prime land" for some developer worth millions and millions. Anybody who has half a brain is going to sell up at some point.. just look at what happened to Waverley Park...

So you either have strips miles from anywhere (heathcote) or you have them somewhere near the city and they get closed.

[SS8_Gohan]

so is there a suburb called Calder? never knew that

where is Sandown?

to be honest, there are a lot more matters that have a higher priority than to satisfy a few thousand (if that) motor enthusiasts by building them a multi-million dollar race facility.

It would sooo low on the governments priority list, that it wouldn't even be there. I hate labour, but i don't blame for not paying attention to this. There are countless other 'enthusiast' groups, but really, not very important when it comes to things like health/education/technology - comes a VERY distant.... last

[The Jake]

I believe we deserve it... at a projected $489 Million dollars in "Revenue" (Or Loot more like it), from fixed position speed cameras alone, the lousy government, (that should have never been in power in the first place) owes us.

This is on top of the massive money made from rego, rates, parking fines, and various other theivings.

The obvious response is that we already have blah blah blah, and/ or the money would have to come out of Health or Education (OR the 98% of the budget that lines their pockets).  

If legal and assecible drag tracks were available, street racing should go down, and conversely the amount of people being hospitalized for car accidents.

Accessibility is also a problem, as I live in North/ North Eastern Vic, and Heatcote is on the way to melbourne... 2 hours away... on a good run. @ $1.13 per litre and 12-16 litres per 100 kms, it is not a cheap excercise.

They owe us

As much as I hate fixed cameras and this 3km bullshit margin of error, how is money that is gained from those who broke the law owed to you - who broke the law in the first place?

Saying they should build legal drag strips to lower street racing is tantamount to saying that they should legalise drugs in order to reduce crime.

I think it's a real grey area for argument and nont necessarily a good one.

I think the people who are most likely to do street racing are the P platers who scraped together every penny to pay for their souped up R33 GTS-Ts and R34 GT-Ts, can barely afford petrol, still live at home and complain about driving more than 45min. Funnily enough, the ones the government seems to be targeting.

The coppers are targeting P platers with import cars with turbos and lots of modifications, well, why is it I do not have a problem with this?

It's funny you don't see the 25+ year olds here really kicking up a shit storm over this. Least not those who can afford their rides and can afford the time and money to race them legally.

- J.

[martydaman]

Saying they should build legal drag strips to lower street racing is tantamount to saying that they should legalise drugs in order to reduce crime.  

I think the comparison your looking for is the governmnet implementing safe-injecting rooms to lower herion deaths as implementing legal drag strips to lower "hoon" deaths.

Going as far as saying "legalising drugs" would be the same as "legalising street racing" which we all know wont happen, your comparisons are biased... are they not?

If you look at it, its quite an interesting example. But because the governmnet has stated a zero tolerance policy on street racing itll never happen, but the governmnet doesnt have a problem with safe injecting rooms being used in the same manner to save lives...

isnt that in the slightest way hypocritical??

[Mulkers]

As much as I hate fixed cameras and this 3km bullshit margin of error, how is money that is gained from those who broke the law owed to you - who broke the law in the first place?

Saying they should build legal drag strips to lower street racing is tantamount to saying that they should legalise drugs in order to reduce crime.  

I think it's a real grey area for argument and nont necessarily a good one.

I think the people who are most likely to do street racing are the P platers who scraped together every penny to pay for their souped up R33 GTS-Ts and R34 GT-Ts, can barely afford petrol, still live at home and complain about driving more than 45min.  Funnily enough, the ones the government seems to be targeting.

The coppers are targeting P platers with import cars with turbos and lots of modifications, well, why is it I do not have a problem with this?  

It's funny you don't see the 25+ year olds here really kicking up a shit storm over this. Least not those who can afford their rides and can afford the time and money to race them legally.  

- J.

Valid point... But i have several friends who have had close calls because they were watching their speedo, and people who are booked for being 4km/h over while in relatively difficult or unkown areas.

The money is not being put towards anything useful- this is my main complaint.

But I am not a P Plater, and I live in melbourne most of the time, and pass through Heathcote regularly. I also am very unfortunate not to own a 'line, as I am only 17, but I am very interested, and as a driver on victorian roads, I understand that the powers that be have an unbelievably unlawful amount of power, and it is not overly constructive.