R33 GTS 511rwhp-Stock injectors

[Robo's]

Hi Steve-SST,

 

I have an RB25 with ARIAS pistons, Linished, Shot Peened and Cryo Tempered Rods, HKS GT 3040, HKS topmount manifold, PFC, Tomei Poncams 256/9, 550cc Sards, Greddy/Trust Plenum, Ported Head Iski valves prings, Micks MC bar & plate cooler 100mm, E-Boost and Trust Type R W/G 45mm, Q45 Throttle Body, Q45 AFM, 90mm Fujitsubo Exhaust, 90mm dump & very hi flow cat.

 

Max I could get out of it was 330rwkw @ 21 PSI. (DD Dyno in shootout mode - do a search and you will find the dyno graph I posted)

 

 Since my car is very similar spec to Pauls and Magics -  

 

 If I change from PFC to Wolf - am I gonna get 50 rwkw increase ???

 

 Cheers !

 

/edit  = PS I run 118 mph (18PSI) - but I am CRAP at drag racing

 

 

What 50rwkw???

Yours is 330rwkw which is 442rwhp which is the same as Magics run on the DD dyno. His 511rwhp is the different hub dyno which the yanks use. So a change to a Wolf will bring you 0rwkw increase.

[N I B]

It comes down to who is tuning.

We got ND4SPD to 640rwhp on 550cc injectors before we fitted the 1000cc ones (only this big cause we had them)

[tomj]

no it doesnt, it comes down to the ecu- the ecu gives you the ability to tune injectors that small without melting an engine.

try it with a power fc or motec, autronic etc. not gonna happen is it?

[N I B]

The Drags will tell the tale eh TJ, GOTBOOST will cause the next round when we post Seans next 1/4 times loaded with china made parts on stock motor and injectors.

[BU5TER]

Your talking about the manifold, turbo etc that GOTBOOST bolted onto his own engine? the parts you had nothing to do with putting there?

[IMACUL8]

TJ

Are you for farken real???????

Comparing a Wolf to a Motec..hhahhahahahhahahhaha

Classic

[tomj]

The Drags will tell the tale eh TJ, GOTBOOST will cause the next round when we post Seans next 1/4 times loaded with china made parts on stock motor and injectors.

Seans car will do a 10, maybe a 9. its a brilliant effort for someone who built that car from scratch at home. Seans also one of the nicest guys out, and were all rooting for him to get the time. Tristan likewise, he is a champ and one of antilag.com's more cherished members. he just isnt as well known.

[DoughBoy]

Doe he have a Jim Berry clutch?

[R31Nismoid]

last warning guys. stop baiting each other with stupid and immature comments.

Anything i deem to be off topic will see a warning handed out.

Buster - you should know better, why post something like that?

im trying to let this discussion go but some of you are taking it knowingly too far

[crack]

play nice guys.

handed out any warnings yet ash :jk:

[N I B]

Never said i did i only tuned his Wolf,Sean is self made man but it will get the East coast girls crying when he improves his already fast 11.1 using China parts and a Wolf.

[rev210]

Magic1 got 511rwhp at a dyno comp at the WA Salon, enough to win his class at the event. He wins a prize. He did it with an wolf and stock injectors. End of story really. His car is quite fast. A terminal of 120mph is not always going to correspond to a 'dyno' reading in shootout mode, due in a large part to the fact that a dyno cannot replicate the track environment or the odd bad day for a driver or a set of dirty plugs etc.

His car has a engine setup that on paper should be able to produce 500 flywheel hp on a good day without too much fuss, can't see much controversy about that. The standard injector thing is interesting, there is a way of getting more fuel in to do the job (appart from fuel pressure) can anyone guess?

Why people get worked up over dyno print outs beats me. The dyno is a great tuning tool, go in increase the power from where you started and your happy. Dyno sheets work better as toilet paper than something to compare my car with someone elses, I couldn't care less. However I'm often interested to hear about people having success in tuning their cars from a general veiw of engine characteristics that show up in the dyno's measurements.

[fane]

:werd: rev210 as always.

[R32-GTS]

TJ

Are you for farken real???????

Comparing a Wolf to a Motec..hhahhahahahhahahhaha

Classic

I think you can in alot of ways. I think you read to many magazines imacul8. :werd:

[Denver]

The post stands it did make 511 on Speedworks dyno and as Tristan said read the following posts and you will find out what it made in shootout.

Speedworks claim their dyno is the only one thats right i think our dyno is but you guys make up your own mind.

Roy Robinsons s13 ran 11.02 and makes about 440hp on the Speedworks dyno..

now lets do it the drag method..

using the drag calculator on ray halls site found at

http://www.turbofast.com.au/Drag.html

roughly roys car will more than likely tip in at 1250kg with him in it..

lets convert that to pounds at 2.20462 pounds per kilo..

2755.775 pounds...

choosing the find HP option, we put in the weight, 2755.775, punch in the et, 11.02, and click calc..

406.87 hp..

seems pretty close to me steve...

lets see what Tristians car runs shall we..

[Nguyen]

Interesting thread to say the least...

Firstly congrats to magic1, you have yourself a solid power figure there, that is a fact. It's obvious steve-sst is shit stirring, but sydneykid isn't stupid enough take the bait, i don't see him posting any crap. It's evident that steve-sst likes to use customer cars to promote his shop and the wolf; eg, nd4spd, gotboost, gtstvspec, rob77(until things went bad) it's funny how when things go bad its kept quiet, or always blamed on a mechanical failure, not tuning. what about the many other customer rb25dets that have melted? magic1's car is just being used to put sst in the spotlight, i bet this thread was created without even consulting him.

These type of 'workshop promo cars' are usually tuned with 500% more care than your average customer car, because it represents the workshop to an extent. At the end of the day this thread was made to create interest for sst workshop, getting your attention with such a high power figure, using only stock injectors. steve-sst had this well thought out, and knew that it would create a big debate, if he kept his little trick a secret.

As Jay95 has said, isn't this forum to share knowledge of Skylines? If this thread is just to promote the workshop it should simply be closed because this is poor. There can be no other reason to post this power figure, and then keep this technique a secret, other than to expose this workshop and the ecu. I personally don't care how they did it, im not even chasing that sort of power.

Threads like these do not benefit your average user at all, they simply confuse them. If it was as simple as, "use a fuel pressure regulator with your stock injectors and your fuel system will support 511rwhp, like mine did!" thread, then that would be informative, but as far as i can see, this is pointless.

[ylwgtr2]

I connected a set of standard injectors to my washing machine and gave it a 100% duty cycle burst of preen on the spin cycle....there was signs of detonation in my undies only...but damn they come out clean.....thats about the best thing i have acheived using standard injectors...hope this helps

[GOT BOOST]

Doe he have a Jim Berry clutch?

i have a bartman clutch. nothing more than a recond GTR pressure plate and brass button disc. its budget and its all good

[Cubes]

damn ylwgtr2.

You got detonation in your undies and they still came out clean. Every time I get detonation in my undies I generally coked oil leaking out the headgasket of my undies and down my block.

[ylwgtr2]

i spoke to soon....the detonation was all too much and its since given up the ghost....it seems to have burnt out my bigend leaving severe scorch marks in the lower half on my undies......unable to be rebuilt,sandblasted or built up with stitching....looks like i have to get a cheap low klm import pair of undies(hopefully from a japanese school girl ) ah well....thats the price you pay for living on the edge.....