performance-wise Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 heyall. I got done speeding (128kmh) in NSW by a pursuit car with radar. I didnt see the readout and the conversation was recorded. The officer also defected my car for 3 days in which I had to repair the defect and have it approved by the RTA. My speedo was removed for repair at the time and I was driving the car to a mechanic to have the speedo re-installed. I had it repaired, installed and approved with full documentation. About 6 weeks later I was done for speeding in Vic doing 123kmh when overtaking some moron who decided to speed up in the process ( I couldnt back off as there was an oncoming vehicle and I HAD to overtake to survive!!) I have never been done previously for any driving offences. I have held my license for approximately 8 years. I would like to know if it is worth me pursuing these in court and if so, what would be the best way to do this for the best possible outcome. Thanx in advance. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 The first one where you were driving around with no speedo is your problem coz you should have been driving slower than other cars since you didnt know what speed you were doing. The second one depending on the circumstances and road / speed limit you were on you may have a chance in court. This one needs more information Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS2500 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 About 6 weeks later I was done for speeding in Vic doing 123kmh when overtaking some moron who decided to speed up in the process ( I couldnt back off as there was an oncoming vehicle and I HAD to overtake to survive!!) I don't think this story will get you far in court...unfortunately. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jake Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I've always wondered if "self defence" is a reasonable cause for speeding? Although if you can't prove it you're probably ****ed. If they can produce the picture where you are along side the other car though, that might work. You could prove that if the other car is keeping pace then he is speeding too. - J. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 It has been used. A motorcyclist got off a fine for taking evasive action which involved exceeding the speed limit. There was an article about it on drive or carpoint. Did a quick search but didn't find it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 both offences were in 100kmh speed zones(princes hwy). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 But princess highway is a 80km/h zone. Doesnt seem that you have any proof about having to accelerate to avoid a collision? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 The first one where you were driving around with no speedo is your problem coz you should have been driving slower than other cars since you didnt know what speed you were doing. where did he say he drove without a speedo you moron? dude, just bend over and take it. You are in the wrong on both occasions, if the other guy sped up, you should have slowed and pulled back in behind him. No court will take that excuse Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 My speedo was removed for repair at the time and I was driving the car to a mechanic to have the speedo re-installed. :wavey: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 that was at the time of clearing the defect. if you READ carefully. either that or gr33ddy isnt using good english. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 hmm yes some clarification is required. It reads like it was out at the time, and then got reinstalled after the first speeding fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 first offence - my speedo was out at the time - I was booked for speeding and defected when taking the car in to have the speedo re-installed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 dude, just bend over and take it. You are in the wrong on both occasions, if the other guy sped up, you should have slowed and pulled back in behind him.No court will take that excuse I couldnt have pulled behind the car as there was no room - I had to accelerate to get past. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 where did he say he drove without a speedo you moron? Whos the moron now? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance-wise Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 But princess highway is a 80km/h zone.Doesnt seem that you have any proof about having to accelerate to avoid a collision? princes hwy has many zones - I was in a 100kmh zone at the time. I dont have any proof of overtaking to avoid a collision??? How can you prove such a thing?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I dont have any proof of overtaking to avoid a collision??? How can you prove such a thing?? Exactly, the judge will think you are just making up a story. Your word against a cops without any evidence and you have next to 0% chance of the judge believing you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1075952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPCAB Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Sorry to hear bout it - but prepare to get reemed. Dont bother going to court because you will only get reemed harder and be up for more costs. First case with the speedo that will be your fault 100% so you cant challenge it. The second one you cant prove anything and dont think the cop wont make up a story about it if he knows its going to court - what cop wants to be proven wrong? The police prosecutor is a total fagget as well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1076130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Sorry to hear bout it - but prepare to get reemed. Dont bother going to court because you will only get reemed harder and be up for more costs. hahaha something u unfortunately no a lot about Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1076175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 In the overtaking case you can claim self defence and it is then up to police to prove it wasn't. After the case with the motorcycle they will be a little more timid as the magistrate was pretty pissed that they pursued it. Talk to a lawyer but you should be able to defend yourself. As for the other one, you may have some difficulty and it would cost an engineer from MU automotive area. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1076212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPCAB Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Yep that sounds about right....... hehe hahaha something u unfortunately no a lot about Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55113-cops/#findComment-1076337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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