Help with steering

[sexzila]

Help with steering!!!

Hi,

I have just done wheel balance on my car on all 4 tyres.

This has been done twice now at two different TyrePower shops.

Resolution after $120 spent: The steering still shakes as soon as I hit 100km/h.

I thought it was my tyres, I don’t know. I don’t remember hitting anything at all.

So I don’t think it would be my mags. Possibly one of the tyres is defective, Front.

Thinking if it is backs, the whole car would shake. So it must be fronts. Either front rubber is defective or the mags are buckled. The guys at TyrePower reckons that’s not the case. I don’t know what else could be the problem. Can you guys offer some sort of assistance even if it is a wheel specialist place.

Thanks heaps.

Al

[GWP021]

have a similar problem have a theory that its the front bushes that have started to show cracks probably cracked on insides first and worked way out thats why we couln figure it out my mechanic thinks i might be right am getting whole new suspension soon ( whiteline works kit) this better fix it

[sexzila]

have a similar problem have a theory that its the front bushes that have started to show cracks probably cracked on insides first and worked way out thats why we couln figure it out my mechanic thinks i might be right am getting whole new suspension soon ( whiteline works kit) this better fix it

I was told by a mechanic that the suspension wouldn't affect just a steering, but the whole car. So I am inclined to say wheels. It's only the steering that shakes at early100. Even thought it was my discs. But that would only affect breaking. So the steering would pull to the dirrection of the front disc that is not grinded as much.

That's what I was told. I m getting the all machined and new brakes done aswell.

Some sort of Bendix. Any advice on Bendix while we are on the subject.

Bendix Advance front and rear plus all for machined disc's for $340.

I think that sounds ok. What do you think?

Al

[GWP021]

ah yes true but mines only a theory and i need new suspension anywho i find i have a vibration between 85ish - 115ish no probs on strip or track vibration on acceleration deceleration and at steady pace mechanic sed the bushes that are cracked cop the full weight of the front of the vehicle and so may cause it but that theres no danger of s%$t hitting fan sort of thing

[sexzila]

Gavin, what is the prob with your steering?

More exactly ..

[sexzila]

Does your entire car shake?

[GWP021]

na vibration through wheel at 85-115ish not major comes an goes as it likes an had sterin box checked alrready mechanic sez it wont kill nuthin so really its on the ron pile

[ric777]

Help with steering!!!

Hi,

I have just done wheel balance on my car on all 4 tyres.

This has been done twice now at two different TyrePower shops.

Resolution after $120 spent: The steering still shakes as soon as I hit 100km/h.

I thought it was my tyres, I don’t know. I don’t remember hitting anything at all.

So I don’t think it would be my mags. Possibly one of the tyres is defective, Front.  

Thinking if it is backs, the whole car would shake. So it must be fronts. Either front rubber is defective or the mags are buckled. The guys at TyrePower reckons that’s not the case. I don’t know what else could be the problem. Can you guys offer some sort of assistance even if it is a wheel specialist place.

Thanks heaps.

Al

How's the wheel alignment?

[sexzila]

How's the wheel alignment?

Alignment is fine ,

In that case it would only make the car push left or the opposite on the straight...

Depending on speed. I don't think the alignment would have anything to do with vibrations on steering at particular sped.

If I am wrong please guys explain how that is possible. As the vibrations are on 100 sharp and constant after that. Alignment would affect it on lover speed...

Yes?

[Jimmah]

If the alignment is out it can only show itself at certain speed ranges, As i have experienced in my Magna. I have a similar problem that at 70 - 90 kms i could feel a shudder but soon as i got over say 95kms it was smooth again. Saying that soon as i got under 70kms it was fine too it was only that range of 70 - 90kms.

So i got a wheel alignment done and it was fixed, i defiantly dont know much about cars or evan physics to explain it. Our problems sounded familiar so i though i would share, i hope i have helped.

[ric777]

Alignment is fine ,  

In that case it would only make the car push left or the opposite on the straight...

Depending on speed. I don't think the alignment would have anything to do with vibrations on steering at particular sped.

If I am wrong please guys explain how that is possible. As the vibrations are on 100 sharp and constant after that. Alignment would affect it on lover speed...

Yes?

when I first got my "line", it would shudder when I reached around 115-120km/hr. The wheels were balanced, yet still that shudder. Didn't do much about it after that as I didn't often go that speed anyway.

When I discovered that the insides of the front tyres were wearing bad (excessive negative camber) I got the alignment checked and camber kit had to be installed as camber was way too much on the negative side. Negative camber will not necessarily give shudder as race cars use huge amounts of -tive camber, depending on track layout. Anyway the shudder is no longer there so I suspect something else in the alignment was out.

Pulling left or right doesn't necessarily have to be a symptom for the alignment to be out.

A failure in a tyre wall could be a possibility for shuddering or other tyre problems.

If you are able, try to swap your front wheels and tyres with one of your mates and take it for a spin. That way you will be able to discount the tyre factor.

If that checks out ok, then you might look at suspension bushes or even shockies.

Hope that helps

[rob77]

when my car got here from japan it had a bad vibration and the compliance workshop got all 4 wheels balanced and aligned however the problem still persisted. He dropped the tailshaft and he 3 uni-joints were worn and not moving freely he sent it off to some place in osborne park and they machined the joints and replaced them and all was fine again.

[DirtyDezza]

on the case of the bendix pads i paid $120 for ultimates and had my discs machined for 50 bucks through a mate that was for the fronts only but.

[RB20LagWagon]

put standard mags on and see if problem goes away.

[ix9]

I had this problem a while ago...

Had 235 rears and 215 fronts, and i always had a vibration at about 110-120ish, went thru like 2 different sets of tyres and it was still there...

... then I got 255 rears, and 235 fronts..... were told the rims were slightly buckled while my tyre guy was doing the balancing, but put them on the car and it was perfect!

It might be your choice of rubber - but if you got two completely different brands both times it wouldn't be that?

[Nizmo]

i have same thing when i hit 120km :Paranoid:

Steering wheel wobbles after alignments, new rubber, new pads and new bushes ...... give up ..... i just cling to the steering wheel harder

[GWP021]

yea im at that point niz 2sets of rims and tyres heaps of balances and alignments hell ill just wait an see if its still there after th suspension upgrade

[DiPsHiT]

hahaha so im not the onli one having problems my whole car is fkd, the people that did the custom boss kit thingy for steering wheel did it for it to be straight and now its gone wonky and stays wonky... its like tilted when u drive straight... with the car pushing to left when u drive straight, and it sometimes does that shaking shit that u guys are talkin about when goin through different speeds...

[sexzila]

I would like to know of a good , real good, specialist for these things....

Any ideas guys and girls?

Al

[sexzila]

Guys I was told by all the tyre places and the mechanics that the suspension would not affect the steering, entire car would be affected. Not just an isolated steering problem. Most likely its the tyres. I have Goodyear, Venturas. $150each, brand new. Found out they have bumps in the circle fronface. When the wheel is rotating you can see the bumps on it. Even with the alignment done to 0.5g an all sides. I think I have crap tyres. It's gona be a Bad year with my GoodYEars. Hope I find something other than that solution.

And guys my steering is critical, it shakes 1 to 2 cm on both sides. at 100-120...not drivable.

Hope someone can recomend a good place.

Al