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Nacho Vidal

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93 model R33 GTST Forgied CP pistons, valve springs and stock every thing else.

800cc injectors

600x300x75mm Front mounted cooler

Xforce 3inch turbo back exhaust

Profect B electric boost controller

Brea bolton manifold.

SS2 prototype (290612) Internally gated. 14psi actuator, internally gated.

4inch intake pipe

Adaptronic Plugin

Greedy EBC

Further evaluation on the SS2. it made 337rwkws on e85 externally gated it made 337rwkws at 18psi peek just touching 20psi. I've also trailed it based on internal gate running boost controller and straight off the actuator.

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The solid red and green are from internal gate, Green is internal wastegate pressure:

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Boost curve for all runs.

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Also same car specifications, trailing SS3 prototype. made 387rwkws @ 24psi In fear of snapping con-roads it was done on a short 9 sec ramp, so the curve on paper does appear laggier then what it actually is.

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R33 GTST S2

Stock motor

FMIC

Spitfires

Nismo 740cc

Walbro fuel pump

Vipec ECU

GT3076 [Low mounted & Internally Gated]

3" Exhaust with Hi-Flow Cat

4" Intake pipe

Curretly making 302rwhp on 18psi

Car was having some troubles on dyno with poor fuel in the tank and the fuel not having enough timing in it. Car is going back on the rollers on tuesday for a retune and to fix any issues. Hoping to see just under 400 out of it

Car has been tuned again, had a crank angle sensor fault aswell. car now makes 350hp. still a bit shot of what i wanted.

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Ok just had my rb25 neo from a r34 gtt tuned by efi in brisbane.

Mods std unopen rb25 neo

stage 1 pom tom cams

spitfire coil packs

550cc bosh injectors

hypergear hi-flow std op6 turbo .63 rear now.

head ported

std inlet manifold

std exhast manifold 3" exhaust from turbo back (by myself).

100 cel cat & straight through muf,

aeroflow 650hp fuel pump

running 98 ron

On 12psi max made 256.1 kw @ the rears wheels @6500rpm

Will get more but unable to set the timeing correctly as i don't have a lower timeing cover fitted as there wasn't one on the engine when i got it.

Once i get the cover will be able to wind up the boost to 16-18psi.'

Will upload dyno sheet on Monday or Tuesday.

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R32 GTST

Stock RB25DET

Kando T67 10cm

Tial 44mm Wastegate

6Boost exhaust manifold

3" exhaust with single muffler

Random FMIC

Freddy Plenum

Bosch ID1000 injectors

Turbosmart FPR800

Walbro 400lph E85 compatible running E85

Splitfire Coilpacks

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R34 gtt

Stock RB25DET NEO

Power fc

Kando T67-25G

3" turbo-cat then 3.5" cat back

Spitfire coil packs

Deatschwerks 300lph pump (hardwired)

Siemens deka 60lb injectors

Z32 afm

Hybrid performance exhaust manifold

Blitz return flow FMIC

TurboSmart 50mm progate

Running 20psi on 98 octane.

Doesn't want to upload photo of dyno from le phone....

But it made 278.6rwkw @ 6750rpm and 462.5NM @ 5000rpm.

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R34 gtt

Unopened RB25DET NEO

Nistune

HyperGear ART43G2.5 Internal Gate

3" justjap dump-cat, 3"cat-exhaust

Deatschwerks 600cc Injectors

Walbro 341

Z32 afm

Stock Manifold

Cooling Pro Front Mount

252rwkw @ ~ 6000rpm 20psi

(338HP)

Boost drop is more than i would like, trying to work out what causing it.

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310rwhp @ hubs, 1.3bar

Something not right with my setup, not making as much as it should.. I've since changed the restrictive Blitz Nur exhaust over with a straight through 3" system so hopefully could make a bit more.. yet to re-dyno

Stock RB25DET

HKS GT2540

HKS split dump pipe

3" front pipe

3" Catco high flow cat

3" Cat back

Apexi Power FC

Apexi pod filter

JDM S15 480cc injectors

Adjustable Fuel Press Reg.

Walbro GSS-342 fuel pump

FMIC

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Latest results:

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Red line is high boost setting at 18psi, blue line is low boost setting at 16psi with the gain set more conservatively to bring it on slower.

Mods:

Link G4 Plug-In

Greddy Profec B-Spec II EBC

Haltech 3 bar MAP sensor

Externally gated Hypergear ATR43 G3

Turbosmart Compgate40

1000cc Injector Dynamics injectors

Plazmaman FFP

Plazmaman 72mm throttle body

JJR 3" bellmouth dump/front pipe

VENOM 5" 100 cell cat

3" custom Kermit Engineering exhaust

Walbro GSS-342 in-tank fuel pump

GReddy FMIC

AGP triple core alloy radiator

stock GTR bov

custom Pro Fabrications alloy oil catch can/radiator overflow combo with Earls fittings

Splitfire coilpacks

HKS fuel rail

Performance Springs valve springs and retainers

Tomei Type-B Poncams

Headtorque custom bronze valve guides

ARP head studs.

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R34 GTT

Unopened RB25DET

GT30/76r +lines

Greddy ProfecB II boost controller

Blitz 600x240x60 front mount

Nistune ECU

Denso highflow FP

Splitfire coilpacks

Z32 air flow

HKS BOV

Apexi pod

Custom 3" dump pipe

Custom 3" high flow cat

3" cat back

On 98 octane / 16PSI made 261RWKW

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R34 Gt-t, 170,000k's old.

Unopened engine

Kando T67 anti-surge housing

Hybrid Performance Manifold

Tial 44mm MVR gate

Nistune ECU

Just Jap intercooler

750cc injectors

Z32 in the cooler piping

Splitfire's

K&N filter on 4" intake

3" Dump and straight through Exhaust with only a single hotdog

Walbro Pump

on 98 @ 17psi made 380rwhp, had lots of drama's with the Nistune, so hoping for some more after a retune once i have sorted all the issues, will put 20psi into it. Failing on dyno sheet atm.

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93 model R33 GTST Forgied CP pistons, valve springs and stock every thing else.

800cc injectors

600x300x75mm Front mounted cooler

Xforce 3inch turbo back exhaust

Profect B electric boost controller

SS Ebay bolt on manifold

PU high flowed R33 turbocharger, Ceramic roller bearing, internally gated.

4inch intake pipe

Adaptronic Plugin

Greedy EBC

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This is Billet SS2 in .82 Type B Ceramic roller bearing

Both runs are based on a ported stock exhaust manifold E85. Blue is with a .63 rear housing.

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1999 Stagea RS4S

HKS 2835ProS

Nismo 480cc injectors

Plazmaman FMIC (turnflow)

3" Straight through exhaust with mid muffler and massive rear can (very quiet car)

260 deg type B Poncams

Greddy Profec B

Nistune (car has run with auto base image for around 2 years finally figured out that it was supplied incorrectly and just re-imaged)

Tidy up tune with Jez to check what if any WOT mapping changes were needed after installing the manual image. It is anyones guess what Nistune is doing under the surface. Plus I wanted to work more on getting the car off the line. The Stagea bogs down quite easily unless you give it the beans off the line. Changes made to very low load fueling and VCT has sorted out these issues.

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Thought I'd have a look and add my info car is currently on the build again bigger turbo and intercooler

But here is some figures when finally complete and

On Dyno will post sheets of new power.

Currently 427kw revs taken to 8800.

Cracked r34 gtt 25det neo

Fully forged from ground up.

Valves seats rings arp head bolts, studs

Wiseco forgiez

Tomei poncams stage 2

Rc 720cc injectors Greddy intake

Hypertune 90mm throttle body

4 inch intake piping all round

SARd external gate

Custome sinco top mount mani

ARE surge pot fuel pump wallbro x 2

Nismo engine mounts to stop torque bend ( still engine pulls hard lol)

Hks t04s 1.0 exhaust wheel (nice change at 4000rpm no valve noise means no cops lol)

Apexi avcr

Apexi el2 gauges oil pressure,temp water And boost

Apexi rsm

3 1/4 inch exhaust with cat back

Arc cold air intake box

Spitfire coilpacks

Upgrade vct module It's awesome keeping vct trust me

Basicly it there's heaps of other things but that's basic core stuff.

427kw atw at 1.4 bar boost

On Bp 98 ultimate

Oh and vipec ecu

Nice to see heaps of other tough 25 and 20dets reppin.

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Car just came off the dyno today after a 18 month build up.

Nissan A31 Cefiro

RB25DET series one (unopened)

Garret GT3076R .82 rear

Deatsch werks 740cc injectors

Walbro fuel pump

Z32 AFM

Power FC

Greddy Plenum

HKS low mount manifold

3 inch turbo back exhaust

Tial 38mm gate

HKS Pod

Front mount

260.7kw @ 14psi

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